Message board comments 
from September through mid-November 2002

 

Date:
09/05/02
Time:
02:00 PM

Comments

Messages from July through August have been archived here

Date:
09/06/02
Time:
04:06 AM

Comments

Pursuant to the document (Constitution), war is a decision to be made exclusively by the representatives of the people -- the Congress. Only Congress is authorized to declare war, raise and support armies, provide and maintain a navy, and make the rules for these armed forces. There is nothing vague or unclear about the language…

John Dean

Date:
09/16/02
Time:
09:44 PM

Comments

I believe as Commander in Chief, President Bush has the authority to launch an attack against Iraq. It would do no good to allow a rival time to arm and protect themselves if they had the advanced warning of a Commander in Cheif asking public permission to attack and then allow discussion about it.

Date:
09/18/02
Time:
05:50 AM

Comments

".....we learn most of all from those political and social dissenters whose differences with us are most grave: for among the young, as among adults, the sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country."

Bobby Kennedy

Date:
09/18/02
Time:
01:56 PM

Comments

The woman's voice on the phone was as plaintive as a tear, as she implored the non-responsive talk show host to please tell her, "Why do they hate us so much? Why?".

Her voice, while not commonly projected in the current media, resonates in the consciousness of millions of Americans, who look at the carnage of the World Trade Center, shiver at the violent audacity of it, and wonder, "Why?".

This is a particularly American response, one made in a culture that has no yesterdays, and only a tomorrow of creature comforts, no-fat ice cream, and luxury cars.

History, to millions of Americans, is John Wayne, or the vaunted Founding Fathers, who have no blemishes, nor flaws. Much of the outer world are of no import, as they are subjects of the Empire, and thus expendable.

Their histories, deeply intertwined with the U.S., are of no serious consequence. Hence, the question, "Why?".

This almost willful ignorance of millions of Americans allows them to look at the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, and the veering jet liners of 11 September, 2001, and ask, "Why?".

If you, the reader, don't want to hear an answer to this rhetorical question, feel free to turn the page, for the writer's response will not please you.

The airplane bombing of the WORLD TRADE center towers and of the Pentagon didn't begin on Sept. 11, 2001. Nor are they, as some politicians glibly suggest, "A war against civililization." But it ain't the job of politicans to inform you.

It is the job of the media, but their central concern is to sell you, and therefore they don't want to upset you. Their primary responsibility is not to their readers, but to the owners, or the stockholders. And it is the interests of the military-industrial-complex that millions remain uninformed and misinformed.

The suicide flights over New York, Washington and Pennsylvania had their beginning in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan, in the 10-year guerilla war against the former Soviet Union. That war was supported and facilitated by the U.S. CIA, which pumped billions into the anti-Soviet insurgency.

The result? An Algerian sociologist told an American journalist in Algiers, "Your government participated in creating a monster." The sociologist added, "Now it has turned against you and the world -- 16,000 Arabs were trained in Afghanistan, made into a veritable killing machine." (Los Angeles Times, Aug. 4, 1996).

A U.S. diplomat in Pakistan echoed these sentiments when he said, "This is an insane instance of the chickens coming home to roost. You can't plug billions of dollars into an anti-Communist jihad, accept participation >from all over the world and ignore the consequences. But we did. Our objectives weren't peace and grooviness in Afghanistan. Our objective was killing Communists and getting the Russians out" (Los Angeles Times, Aug. 4, 1996, p. 2).

How did the Afghanis pay for the weapons, in such a poor, war-ravaged country? How many know that Afghanistan is the world's greatest producer of heroin?

Short on hard dough, the Afghan mujaheddin traded heroin for arms with their CIA suppliers, and the "Golden Crescent" heroin ring was born.

When the Soviets were whipped, and the war ended, the insurgents looked around and saw, not Soviet, but U.S. dominance in the region. They saw the U.S. military presence in the Islamic holy places in Saudi Arabia, its backing of anti-democratic client states, its ravaging of Iraq, and its one-sided support of Israel at the expense of the beleaguered Palestinians, and as they examine the U.S., they see the imperial similarities to the Soviets.

Afghanistan, one of the poorest, most rugged places on earth, has a population with a male life expectancy of 46 (45 for females!). It has a literacy rate of about 29%. It looks at the swollen opulence of the Americans, the global reach of the American empire, and bristles.

This nationalist, cultural, religious and class distance fuels a deep and abiding hatred of American dominance.

Humiliation, of which the Islamic world has had a great deal since the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1922, and the colonial era of the early-to-middle Twentieth Century, is a powerful force. It brought a humbled German to the brink of world conquest after World War I. It is not to be taken lightly.

Afghanistan may prove another turning point in world history, which is why we all should learn about it.

 

Date:
09/20/02
Time:
11:52 PM

Comments

Or nuke it and be done with it. Iraq too. I'd say France too, but they would surrender before we had a chance to.

 

Date:
09/21/02
Time:
04:49 AM

Comments

This is for the writer of the last comment on nuking Irak and Afghanistan. Why stop there??? There are 190 countries in the United Nations Organization....and NOT ONE of them agrees with us, with the possible exception of Great Britain, and even there, Tony Blair is having a hard time holding on. Have we grown so mighty that we can talk of destroying the rest of the world?? I would not be surprised to learn that you consider yourself a good Christian, right? How very proud Jesus would be of you!!!

Date:
09/21/02
Time:
04:01 PM

Comments

I think many more countries in NATO will "come around" and side with the US. They are just waiting to make deals with the US. Even France will come around when it gets pointed out that they have been buying oil from Iraq in direct violation of NATO restrictions on Iraq.

Date:
09/21/02
Time:
04:03 PM

Comments

Intersting collection of quotes from other nations on their support of action against Iraq. The quotes were from 2 years ago. Has Iraq changed since then?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/...

Date:
09/21/02
Time:
10:24 PM

Comments

No, they are all spineless. Big talk until it comes down to a call to action.

Date:
09/22/02
Time:
08:00 AM

Comments

And we assume, of course, that, contrary to the spineless population of the rest of the planet, you have enlisted and cannot wait to be among the first to enter Baghdad.

Date:
09/22/02
Time:
06:10 PM

Comments

I can not wait to enter Bagdad (or France if needed - they would of course immediately surrender and we could enjoy their wine and women). I'm 40 and above the age I think they would normally accept my enlistment, but would go gladly if asked by my country to fight for what we believe in.

Date:
09/22/02
Time:
06:54 PM

Comments

Well, it's too bad the chickenhawks who are now beating the drums of war didn't share your spirit of patriotism when our country called for their participation during the Vietnam War! I tell you what these so-called "hawks" can do now for their country. Let them dress up their offsprings in uniforms and ship them off to Iraq or anywhere else they want to wage war at their own expense! I bet that would cool their heels!

Date:
09/23/02
Time:
07:18 AM

Comments

I guess you forget the surge in patriotism and the dramatic increase in enlistments into the armed services that followed our last invasion of Iraq.

Recruiters said a places were full and turning people away. This new generation will step up when the time comes.

Date:
09/24/02
Time:
07:08 AM

Comments

Except for the liberals. They will be too busy in the USA defending the woman that beatthe crap out of her 4 year old little girl on TV.

It won't be long until they say it's not her fault or it was the husband's fault.

Date:
09/24/02
Time:
07:30 PM

Comments

Funny, must have missed this on CNN:

By Thomas B. Edsall and Edward Walsh Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, September 21, 2002; Page A05

 

The Federal Election Commission disclosed yesterday it has imposed a record-setting $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources

full story here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46452-2002Sep20.html

Date:
10/01/02
Time:
07:55 PM

Comments

Democrat Torricelli resigned from his Senatorial race after it was revealed he accepted gifts from convicted criminal and Korean Businessman David Chang and his chances of relection dimished.

Democrats are now suing to let someone else run. but New Jersy law won't let them.

This shows how much smoke the Democrats have been blowing all along and now their true colors are showing.

No wonder this website has been quiet for a few weeks, if I was a Democrat, I'd be ashamed too.

Republican controlled Senate, here we come!!!!

Date:
10/02/02
Time:
06:59 AM

Comments

Oh, if it were a Republican trying to change the laws and ad a new name to the ballot the democrats would be going crazy!!

I guess if the Republican candidate wins he will be an illegitimate winner who stole the election.

Bunch of whiners.

Date:
10/05/02
Time:
07:06 AM

Comments

It just keeps getting worse. I guess this makes all you Democrats proud:

Friday, Oct. 4, 2002 Democrats Create New Firestorm Over Claims of Military Experience

WASHINGTON -- When Democrat Jim McDermott travelled to Baghdad and denounced President Bush's policy on Iraq, he thought he might be able to get the American people to consider another option to war. It appears that the only outcome of his trip has been to damage Democrat hopes for the upcoming midterm elections and to draw a barrage of criticism from all sides on his comments about his military experience.

Now things have gotten worse for the Seattle Democrat. During a live television broadcast from Baghdad, McDermott claimed that he and fellow Democrat David Bonior had served in Vietnam. Bonior, standing next to McDermott, did not refute the claim. "David and I were in that war.", McDermott said. Bonior added to the firestorm by boasting Wednesday that they had formed a group called "Vietnam Veterans in Congress."

Now, both Democrats are trying to avoid press questions about their military service after reports surfaced that neither served outside of the United States at any point during their military service.

Bonior, who was in the Air Force during the Vietnam War, never left California, where he was stationed. His own Web site admits he was a cook "slinging hash by day" and going to school at night at a local community college.

"As for McDermott, he never left California either. He was a Navy psychiatrist in Long Beach who treated actual Vietnam vets when they got home," Fox News host Brit Hume reported Thursday night.

When asked to explain the discrepancy in their claims, McDermott's only response was "I'd rather not talk about it."

Yeah, I wouldn't want to talk about my lying either.

Date:
10/05/02
Time:
07:08 AM

Comments

...and OH, MY GOD! Even the Ozone hole is getting smaller:

link

Date:
10/05/02
Time:
01:48 PM

Comments

This sums it up:

40% of Democrats not happy with their own party:

link

Date:
10/05/02
Time:
03:03 PM

Comments

I've never seen this web page lacking of Democrats bad mouthing the Republicans and defending their actions.

I guess the actions posted are not defendable.

Date:
10/08/02
Time:
07:23 AM

Comments

Another reason NOT to have campaign reform: Liberal media not covering Republican Candidates and only covering the liberal agenda. Notice none of the major networks carried the President's speech last night. Thank God for Fox News.

Date:
10/10/02
Time:
08:38 PM

Comments

Democrat's motto:

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.

--George Bernard Shaw

Date:
10/10/02
Time:
08:38 PM

Comments

Democrat's motto:

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.

--George Bernard Shaw

Date:
10/10/02
Time:
11:06 PM

Comments

I heard that! Speaking of:

The red legged frog will be saved thanks to 10,000,000.00 of our tax dollars:

http://www.hmbreview.com/display/inn_news/Local_News/story11.txt

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:28 PM

Comments

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Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:30 PM

Comments

George Bush got one thing right in his speech Monday night -- that "many Americans have raised legitimate questions" about his mad rush to war with Iraq.

But he continues to misunderstand what the American people and the rest of the world want in this debate over war -- credible evidence, not speculation and lies; defensible claims, not leaps of illogic; and a response to the growing skepticism about his administration's motivations.

Take Bush's assertion that if Iraq could "produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year." Yes, that's likely true, but it is the equivalent of saying, "If Iraq had a nuclear weapon, it would have a nuclear weapon." Creating the other components of a nuclear bomb would be relatively easy; it is the fissile material that is the issue.

Or consider Bush's claim that "Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists." Yes, he could. But if for the sake of argument we accept the claim that Hussein has stocks of usable weapons, would he give them away? Bush reminded us that Saddam Hussein is a power-hungry dictator who seeks total control. Is it likely such a fellow is going to turn over powerful weapons to an outside group that he can't control? Especially given that Saddam is a secular nationalist and the outside group is rooted in a fanatical theology? Is that how someone trying to hold onto power is likely to act?

Bush at least acknowledged that we know little about Saddam's nuclear capability, but he lied about why. Bush claimed that Iraq barred the inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency in 1998. In fact, the inspectors, along with those from the U.N. Special Commission, were withdrawn by their agencies -- not expelled by Iraq -- in December 1998 when it became clear the Clinton administration was going to bomb Iraq (as it did) and the safety of the inspectors couldn't be guaranteed.

When Bush needed to answer people's legitimate questions, he sidestepped them with cynical attempts to manipulate emotion. To explain why a war is necessary now, he cited the horror of 9/11. "We have seen that those who hate America are willing to crash airplanes into buildings full of innocent people. Our enemies would be no less willing -- in fact, they would be eager -- to use biological or chemical, or a nuclear weapon."

Yes, but the people who committed the atrocities of 9/11 were not agents of Saddam Hussein. The fact that one U.S. enemy used such terrorism does not mean that everyone who dislikes the United States and its policies is going to do it. In fact, the only two times Hussein has dared to use chemical weapons -- in the war with Iran and against Iraqi Kurds -- occurred in the 1980s when he was an ally of the United States and had our implicit support.

Bush's argument reduces to this: No one can prove that Saddam Hussein is not planning to attack us. And if he had a nuclear weapon, no one can prove he wouldn't use it. And if he used it, it is possible he could destroy us. So, to stop this unknown, unproven, unquantifiable, logic-defying "threat gathering against us," we must go to war or risk seeing a mushroom cloud rise over the United States.

For this, Bush is willing to risk massive civilian casualties, the complete destruction of a people already devastated and impoverished by one war and nearly a dozen years of economic embargo, and a dangerously chaotic postwar world. I cannot prove those events would come to pass, but given the brutal way in which the United States fights wars -- with high-altitude bombing and indiscriminate weapons, the direct targeting of civilian infrastructure, and a consistent lack of concern for civilian deaths -- those results are far more plausible than any of Bush's fear mongering claims.

Bush's tactics won't stop people from raising the obvious: It seems clear that the war plans are not about protecting people, but about projecting power. The transparent goal of a Bush war is to extend and deepen U.S. control over the strategically crucial oil resources of the Middle East. A compliant puppet government in Baghdad will solidify U.S. power in the region, through influence over the flow of oil and the establishment of what would almost certainly become a permanent U.S. base and staging area for other military actions in the area.

Although the TV pundits and political sycophants were quick to gush over Bush's alleged statesmanlike demeanor and careful arguments, the legitimate questions remain. People continue to ask them. And Bush and his administration continue to try to paper over them with emotion, not evidence, and rhetoric, not reason.

Bush has over the past months made clear his contempt for the United Nations and the rest of the world. Monday night he made crystal clear his contempt for the intelligence of the American people as well.

 

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:42 PM

Comments

"I recommend a new website edited by writers David Edwards and David Cromwell, whose factual, inquiring analysis of the reporting of Iraq, Afghanistan and other issues has already drawn the kind of defensive spleen that shows how unused to challenge and accountability much of journalism, especially that calling itself liberal, has become. The address is

www.MediaLens.org."

 

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:43 PM

Comments

(John Pilger, New Statesman, March 22, 2002)

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:49 PM

Comments

As I have said before, the ever more sophisticated weapons piling up in the arsenals of the wealthiest and the mightiest can kill the illiterate, the ill, the poor and the hungry but they cannot kill ignorance, illness, poverty or hunger.

- Fidel Castro

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
02:51 PM

Comments

Republicans and Democrates are simply two adjoining cheeks of the same ass. They need each other.

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
05:50 PM

Comments

RE: the earlier post. You and the rest of the liberal faction in the US would be the first to try and hang President Bush if he did was doing nothing and Iraq committed an act of terrorism in the US or other part of the world. Just as you tired to do with the 9/11 attacks.

I feel the United States should make the first strike and put another party in power in Iraq. I also think that all Americans should have contempt for what the United Nations have become, though your statement about his contempt for the American people is only your opinion, not fact as you presented it.

Since the liberal faction in the United States will not let us use our tecnology to safely drill for oil in ANWAR and off the Gulf Coast and Coast of California, they should not whine when we rightly "extend and deepen U.S. control over the strategically crucial oil resources of the Middle East".

 

Hopefully the Republicans will win control of Congress next month so that US interests can be protected.

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
10:48 PM

Comments

Matilda, What a wonderful site. I'm honored you found the time to find mine. You are an inspiration. Peace, Barry Crimmins

Date:
10/14/02
Time:
11:05 PM

Comments

Matilda,

In response to your "open letter to Congress".

I'm glad that you are in the minority. People of the US want Iraq to be overthrown, terrorism eliminated and Congress voted as they should have, not as a vocal minority wanted.

Date:
10/15/02
Time:
02:51 PM

Comments

How does it feel Yankee?" –

"How does it feel to watch explosions in your backyard rather than in the living room of your neighbor? How does it feel to have the fear tighten your chest, the panic provoked by deafening noise, the uncontrollable fire, the buildings collapsing, this horrible odor that fills your lungs, the eyes of the innocents walking covered in blood and dust? How can you feel at home in your house with the uncertainty of what might happen next? When do you think you will be out of this state of shock? The survivors of Hiroshima walked in a state of shock on the 6th of August, 1945. Nothing was left standing in their city after the American plane “Enola Gay” dropped the bomb. In a few seconds 80,000 men women and children were dead. Another 250,000 died as a result of the radiation in the years after the attacks. But this was a war in a far away land before television existed. Can you feel the horror today when you watch these terrible images on the television which are telling you that the tragedy of September 11th did not happen in a far away land but in your very own country? Another September 11th, but 28 years ago, a President died named Salvador Allende while resisting a coup d’etat that your government planned. These were also times of horror, but it all happened very far from your countryside in a small insignificant republic in South America. The republics were not in your backyard and you didn’t need to worry yourselves when your marines used blood and fire to impose their point of view. Did you know that between 1824 and 1994 your country carried out 73 invasions in Latin American countries? The victims were Puerto Rico, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Haiti, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Cuba, the Virgin Islands, El Salvador, Guatemala and Granada. It has been almost a century of your government being at war. From the beginning of the 20th century there almost hasn’t been a war in the world that the Pentagon hasn’t participated in. Of course the bombs always exploded outside your territory with the exception of Pearl Harbor when the Japanese planes bombed the Seventh Fleet in 1941. But the horror was always in the distance. When the Twin Towers came down into a pile of dust , when you saw the images on the television or listened to the screams because you happened to be in Manhattan that morning, did you think for a second how the farmers in Vietnam felt for many years? In Manhattan the people were falling out of skyscrapers like tragic marionettes; in Vietnam the people would moan because napalm would continue to burn their flesh for a long time and death was a phantom (?), just as it was for those that dove into the emptiness. Your airplanes left nothing standing in Yugoslavia, not a factory nor a bridge. In Iraq there were 500,000 dead. Half a million souls that were taken by Operation Desert Storm. How many people were burnt, mutilated, crippled, and disfigured in these exotic places like Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Angola, Somalia, Congo, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Yugoslavia, Sudan and a never-ending list? In all of these places the missiles had been fabricated in your factories and were profitable for your children. People paid your State Department for these missiles so that you could continue to enjoy the “American way of life”. It has been almost a century that your country has been at war with the whole world. Curiously your government officials send the riders of the apocalypse forth in the name of “Liberty” and “Democracy”. But you must know that to many people of the world, on this planet where each day 24,000 people die of hunger and curable disease, the United States does not represent liberty, but rather a distant and terrible enemy which continually sows the seeds of war, hunger, fear and destruction. It has always been distant and just wars for you, but for those who live over there it has been a close painful reality, a war where their buildings are taken down by bombs and where their people have met a horrible death. These victims have been civilians, women, elderly and children 90 percent of the time. How do you feel when the horror knocks on your door, if only for a day? What do you think about the victims in New York being secretaries, stockbrokers and janitors who have always paid their bills and never hurt a fly? How do you feel about the fear? How does it feel Yankee, to know that on September 11th the long war has finally arrived at your house?"

 

Date:
10/15/02
Time:
04:05 PM

Comments

It makes me feel like I really want to kick your a** instead of playing around like we did in the past.

Note: I'll forward this on to the FBI since you can possibly be some deranged terrorist.

Date:
10/16/02
Time:
07:10 AM

Comments

Consider this:

France scoffs at Bush's plan. Their tanker is attacked. Indonesia and Australia tell Bush he's overreaching. A Bali hotel full of vacationing Australians is bombed. Americans and Congress have lost the zeal from 9/11. Snipers begins shooting in and around Washington. And probably dozens of other incidents we haven't heard about yet around the world. Operation Northwoods in action.

We Vote

Date:
10/16/02
Time:
03:33 PM

Comments

to the guy who wants to kick my ass, what problem have you got with "how does it feel Yankee?" what goes around, comes around feel free to pass to FBI, and the CIA, your state sponsored terrorists

signed, HR

Date:
10/21/02
Time:
08:19 AM

Comments

Well, it seems that Republicans are already counting their unhatched chickens....planning how their victory next month will enable them to bulldoze the world. If disappointed Democrats should decide to sit out this election or to vote for a minor candidate who hasn't a prayer of winning, they must be made to see that what they're doing is electing republicans, and this is precisely what Karl Rove is hoping will happen. The unnecessary rush to get that war resolution passed before the elections in November was probably for the express purpose of dividing Democrats at the polls.

Karl Rove is a demon, but he knows how to manipulatethe American public who are already brainwashed by the corrupt media. It destroys me to see an unelected IDIOT appoint unscrupulous devils to run our great country. I wish I could work up even one little optimistic hope about winning back our Congress. If the November elections return some sanity to the USA, I will be able to take heart and start working for a Democratic victory in the 2004 elections. If not, I'm going to turn off this computer and go back to reading....something light, like Winnie the Pooh.

As it is, maybe we have a very slight chance to change things in a couple of weeks....and if so, it will be because of this magic Internet and our wonderful groups. God bless Al Gore for "inventing" the internet!!!

I am also convinced that the only way we're going to oust this EVIL administration is to prove to the American public that Bush and Company were complicit in 9/11. Actually, my distrust of that whole perfidious bunch in Washington knows no limits. I would be not the least bit surprised to learn that they were (are) behind the Bali bombing and the mysterious sniper. I'm not a religious person, but I think I'll start lighting candles.

Matilda Lipscomb

Date:
10/22/02
Time:
01:49 PM

Comments

Senility must be setting in if you really believe such wild theories.

I do know before Clinton came to office, Pakistan and India did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. Before he came to office, Red China was unable to target American cities with nuclear warheads. Now they can. Before he came to office, North Korea did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. And while he was in office, he did nothing to stop Iraq from its nuclear weapons development.

What we have in North Korea is another monumental Clinton administration screw-up dropped into George W. Bush's lap. We are only now beginning to see the real damage that the Clinton administration inflicted on this country and its position in the world. The examples run from September 11th to North Korea, from the Chinese being able to orbit ICMBs and put multiple warheads on each, all the way through to a newly nuclear India and Pakistan.

Hopefully the Republicans will win control of the Senate so we can have real leaders.

Date:
10/22/02
Time:
06:09 PM

Comments

Two points I'd like to make for the previous writer:

1. India exploded its first nuclear bomb in May of 1974. I believe Richard Nixon was still president at the time....certainly not Clinton. And

2. Can you explain why Bush, who included North Korea in his "axis of evil" back in January, 2002 gave North Korea 93 MILLION dollars in April of that same year?

There are several other points I would like to make, but I guess it's futile to do so since you apparently are blowing off steam in an attempt to blame Clinton for whatever is wrong with this sorry administration. Do you really think we're better off now than we were 2 or 3 years ago?

Date:
10/22/02
Time:
10:57 PM

Comments

Re: India as a Nuclear Power:

On 11 May 1998, the Buddha's birth anniversary, India tested three nuclear devices. Two days later, two more tests were conducted. After these tests, the Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee triumphantly announced that India was now a Nuclear Weapon State. Though India's nuclear capability has been public knowledge for quite some time, the tests took the world by surprise. The decision to test was an immediate, political one.

Yes, Bubba was President then.

Yes, he also enabled China to "orbit ICMBs and put multiple warheads on each".

The journey to give money to North Korea began when Communists lied to the US during Clinton's presidency and liberals believed them.

Let's not put them in office come November.

Date:
10/23/02
Time:
08:38 AM

Comments

I hope you'll be kind enough to explain how a lie told by the Communists during the Clinton presidency could cause Bush to list Korea as a part of the "axis of evil" in January 2002, and then give them 93 million dollars in April. I await your reply.

Date:
10/23/02
Time:
03:02 PM

Comments

I don't know anything about the US giving Korea $93 Million. I'm sure the Democrats had something to do with it or they'd be screaming it from every corner now that things don't look so rosey for the November Elections.

No comment about Bubba arming the Chinese and giving them the technology to drop nukes on us?

Better hope Deims keep control of the Senate, we will be able to fix a lot of things in 2 years.

Didn't think so.

Date:
10/23/02
Time:
05:14 PM

Comments

Typical lying Democrat. This is why they all should be voted out of office:

HARRISBURG -- Democratic Rep. Bob Belfanti listed 20 medical groups he said endorsed him, but more than half say they did not.

Belfanti says his staff made a mistake. Opponent Mike Robatin says Belfanti lied.

"Some of those organizations don't endorse political candidates at all," Robatin said. "They are flat-out blatant lies to mislead the public."

Belfanti said the list contained a few errors. He admitted three organizations on the list had not endorsed him. But Belfanti said he never lied.

"It wasn't a lie," he said. "It was an error."

Date:
10/23/02
Time:
05:54 PM

Comments

Just how naïve can the editors of a major U.S. newspaper be? The Bush administration has stopped beating the drums of war because the Beltway Sniper has take over the job of distracting the media from reporting any news that would help Democrats in the November 5 election. Just in time for Bush to take off on another round of fundraising, too. Isn’t that convenient? I still don’t think Bush ever intended to go to war with Iraq. That doesn’t mean we should stop any of the anti-war protests, though. We’ve been able to build coalitions that will be very useful in the future.—Caro]

 

Date:
10/23/02
Time:
06:38 PM

Comments

Matilda,

I always considered myself open minded and enjoyed your views and webpage. Your implying that President Bush had something to do with the beltway sniper, in order to distract the public, causes you to lose all credibility.

Tom W.

Date:
10/24/02
Time:
04:17 AM

Comments

For Tom W....

Go to www.google.com and type in OPERATION NORTHWOODS. And then we'll talk again.....OK?

Matilda

 

Date:
10/24/02
Time:
07:08 PM

Comments

Maybe it was Iraqis killing Americans to make it look like Americans were killing Americans to make the American people think Iraqis were killing Americans.

Or maybe it was just some nut and his stepson who would be found sleeping in thier car with the gun that killed everyone along with all kinds of other solid evidence to prove they were the snipers.

Sometimes you can just be paranoid to the point of no longer thinking clearly.

Tom

Date:
10/25/02
Time:
07:33 PM

Comments

Going to blame the unfortunate death of Senator Paul Wellstone, the liberal Democrat from Minnesota on President Bush too?

Heck, you all try to blame everything else on him.

 

Date:
10/25/02
Time:
07:47 PM

Comments

Funny how the only politicians to die off during election season just happens to be Democrats that are losing their Senate seats.

Guess old Tommy Daschle decided that rigging the election in New Jersey wasn't enough to overcome Republican victories.

Watch out other Democrats..... you could be 'accidentally' killed if you don't find a way to defeat the voters preference for Republicans.

Date:
10/27/02
Time:
01:21 PM

Comments

Can you feel the excitement? One more week until we see who gets control of the Senate. No matter which side you're on, it's exciting.

Someone's going to be very disappointed.

Date:
10/28/02
Time:
10:29 AM

Comments

The entire country, even many Republicans, are mourning the untimely death of that spunky little Senator from Minnesota. Paul Wellstone championed the cause of the millions of average Americans who are ignored by the Bush administration. He was what being a Democrat is all about! How ironic that Wellstone, a Jew, was truly the most "Christian" of all our political leaders!!!

Matilda

Date:
10/28/02
Time:
12:14 PM

Comments

 

I'd never even heard of him before.

Date:
10/28/02
Time:
12:16 PM

Comments

A Jew can't be a Christian:

Main Entry: 1Chris·tian Pronunciation: 'kris-ch&n, 'krish- Function: noun Etymology: Latin christianus, adjective & n., from Greek christianos, from Christos Date: 1526 1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ b (1) : DISCIPLE 2 (2) : a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906 (3) : a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961 2 : the hero in Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress

Date:
10/28/02
Time:
07:17 PM

Comments

Is that the Bunyan with the big blue ox?

Date:
10/29/02
Time:
02:59 PM

Comments

You say no Jew can be a Christian??? What about Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Peter, Paul, James, John, Mark, Matthew, Lazarus, Mary Magdalen, Martha, all the apostles, not to mention the many Palestinian deciples. We have too many "mouth Christians" today who profess to believe in Christ but who have too much greed and hate in their hearts to do his bidding. Didn't Jesus say something to the effect that "Not everyone who says Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my father in heaven". Paul Wellstone did not profess to believe in Christ, but by his actions he was more of a "Christian" than most of our political leaders today.

Matilda

Date:
10/29/02
Time:
04:12 PM

Comments

I'm sure you feel the Democrats words and actions toward the Republican party in Minnesota this past week are honorable and Christ like too. Proud?

Date:
10/29/02
Time:
09:38 PM

Comments

I've never heard of Wellstone either, but the political grandstanding for political advantage and sympathy votes I'm seeing as I watch his wake on TV is making me sick.

These guys have no shame.

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
05:49 AM

Comments

Our ex-president and Mr Mondale sure know how to have a good time. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/021030/168/2k504.html

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
07:07 AM

Comments

C'mon guys. Doesn't every memorial service have chanting, applause and speeches denouncing President Bush?

You really support these souless bast**** Matilda?

Tom W.

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
04:21 PM

Comments

This is after they said Quick! The Cameras are on:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/021030/168/2k5r8.html

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
06:58 PM

Comments

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, upset by what he felt was a partisan tone of a memorial service to honor the late Sen. Paul Wellstone, said he will try to appoint an independent instead of a Democrat to temporarily fill Wellstone's seat.

 

Full story here:

link

RB

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
09:08 PM

Comments

What would have been the reaction if Giuliani and Bush had been photographed laughing at a memorial for the victims of the Twin Towers? Would that have been considered proof that they were behind it?

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
09:32 PM

Comments

Did you forget about the Dimocratic uproar over the picture of President Bush in Airforce 1 immediately after the 9/11 attacks? They accused the Republicans of using the tragedy for political advantage.

What HYPOCRITES!!!!

Date:
10/30/02
Time:
11:05 PM

Comments

Do the Democrats have absolutely no morals?

Check this out of Arkansas: Clinton is going to go to Pine Bluff on Sunday, just as he did at the same time two years ago for the election, and they're going to bus people there to see him. They've hatched a plan to open the election office on Sunday to allow people showing up at the Clinton rally to vote early. They're asking state officials in Arkansas if it's okay to do this, for everybody's convenience. Of course, the U.S. Constitution is very explicit. Voting must occur on one day, not a weekend, not over a three or four-day period, but on one day and if you can't make it, you can't make it. The absentees are the exception, but the law has never stopped these people.

Date:
10/31/02
Time:
06:23 AM

Comments

Absentee or Early Voting Any registered voters who are unable to go to the polls on election day may choose to vote absentee by mail or cast their vote early. 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Early voting is available 10 days prior to the Presidential Primary, ending at 5:00 p.m. the Tuesday before the election. Early voting is available 10 days prior to the Primary Election and 15 days prior to any November Election, ending at 5:00 p.m. the Friday before the election. The Early Voting polling place is open on Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. For more information about Absentee or Early Voting, call the Elections Department at 970-453-3479, Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

The above is for the person who presumed too cite the Constitutional law on voting.

 

Date:
10/31/02
Time:
05:07 PM

Comments

If you read, he stated Clinton was busing in people on Sunday. By your statement, voting ends 5 pm on the Friday before the election.

The previous poster was right in stating they were trying to change the laws for their benefit - AGAIN.

Date:
10/31/02
Time:
09:52 PM

Comments

Will the Democrat's "Death Rally" backfire?

Polls show Mondale's lead gone and candidates are even. Minesota Supreme Court refuses all of the Democratic Party's requests concerning absentee ballots.

Stay tuned.........

Date:
11/01/02
Time:
05:55 AM

Comments

Why hasn't Matilda responded about the Democrat's actions in New Jersey and Minnesota? She approves, ashamed or someone who looks the other way if the party does something wrong?

Date:
11/01/02
Time:
06:04 PM

Comments

On Tuesday night one week before election day, at University of Minnesota's Williams Arena, the memorial service held for Senator Paul Wellstone and those who died with him became a political rally -- and what a beauty it was.

There has been a lot of talk about whether it was "appropriate" to turn the service into a political rally; many said they were angry about that. Don't buy it. It wasn't anger - it was fear.

The C-SPAN cameras showed frequent images of prominent political figures in the crowd, faces we all know. But it's not those faces that the industry lobbyists and their political cronies have to worry about. It's the faces you didn't recognize. Those are the ones that sent a jolt of fear through all who now raise their voices in protest.

Faces of young Minnesotans with tears streaming down their faces over the loss of one man -- Paul Wellstone -- who they knew in their hearts fought for them. Faces of the backbone of the heartland clearly etched in anguish over the loss of one man -- Paul Wellstone -- who gave his life to change things for the better. Faces filled with rage and resolve over the loss of one man -- Paul Wellstone -- who said 'No, This Senate Seat is Not For Sale!'

When Paul's sons David and Mark, and his friend Rick Kahn, exhorted that crowd to carry on his work, it was not a premeditated act by shrewd politicians. This was three young men, their eyes filled with tears over the loss of a Father, a role model, a mentor who said, 'No we will not let what Paul Wellstone fought for die with him.'

Yes, it became a political rally. But it was much, much more than that. It became what a political rally is supposed to be: A grassroots groundswell for fundamental political change in this country. It became an agenda for reclaiming government for the people. It became a rallying cry for American unity.

When these young men spoke with voices raw and unpolished, 20 thousand citizens leapt to their feet and said; 'Unite -- join hands across the nation -- take back our government!'

These are the words of Rick Kahn, Mark Wellstone and Tom Harkin that shook the state of Minnesota:

We're gonna' organize, We're gonna' organize, We're gonna' organize!

We will win, We will win, We will win!

For Paul, For Paul, For Paul!

Marc Ash

http://truthout.com/docs_02/11.02A.ma.minn.htm

Date:
11/01/02
Time:
09:23 PM

Comments

What a crock of BS

Date:
11/01/02
Time:
09:29 PM

Comments

What happened to "make every vote count?" More souless Democrat antics:

 

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20021101-23453916.htm

Date:
11/02/02
Time:
07:33 AM

Comments

The Death Rally in Minnesota is kind of like a life insurance salesman going to a funeral to sell policies.

Horrible.

Date:
11/02/02
Time:
08:44 AM

Comments

About right:

On Mondale's website, the links for "accomplishments" and "on the issues" are unclickable

Date:
11/02/02
Time:
11:49 AM

Comments

I'm now convinced Matilda, like most Democrats, are so filled with hate that they don't care how Democrats win. In fact, winning is not even what matters to them. Seeing to it that the people they hate lose is what's important.

If you click on the link and read the message board you can really see the hate for President Bush.

 

Date:
11/02/02
Time:
01:00 PM

Comments

I see you're point, but you need to click on the link, " Quotes" to the left, not message board. "Message Board will bring you here"

Tom W

Date:
11/03/02
Time:
09:15 AM

Comments

My friends,

I have always had an open mind and been willing to listen to various sides of an issue. I've also been known to change my mind if an opposing argument is logical and truthful.

But some of the recent comments on this page are simply negative and derogatory. They attack with vulgar language and offer nothing to prove their point. I'm still waiting for someone (ANYONE) to list a few ways they are better off today because of the Bush 'presidency'. LET'S TALK SENSE please!

Matilda

Date:
11/03/02
Time:
01:34 PM

Comments

I'm better off today because we have a moral leader in the White House, not an adulterer. (Because of all the press, I did, however, get that "oral sex" talk over taken care of with my daughters, but I was going to wait until they wer older than 8)

We are better off because we have a leader that is fighting terrorism and not ignoring it. I doubt he will be giving the technology to drop nuclear weapons on the USA, lik ethe previous resident of the white house has done.

Interest rates have never been lower. We have gotten out of the Clinton-Gore recession, which officially started in their last quarter. We've now worked our way through it and we're back on economic growth.

Unemployment holding at the low level of 5 percent. My job is stable, I've paid off my house and all my debts, I feel safe in the United states because President Bush is restoring our armed services that Clinton-Gore cut so drastically.

Yes, I'm better now and will even be more so if the Republicans take over the senate on Tuesday.

Date:
11/03/02
Time:
02:26 PM

Comments

Don't forget as a country we are better off if for nothing else President Bush's cabinet changes:

Donald Rumsfield over William Cohen Colin Powell over Madeleine Albright John Ashcroft over Janet Reno Tommy Thompson over Donna Shalala Spencer Abraham over Bill Richardson Condolezza Rice over Samuel Berger

and especially:

Dick Chaney over Al Gore.

Speaking of negative and derogatory commets Matilda, have you read your comments about President Bush? You state a Yale graduate and someone who surround himself with such strong people is not intelligent.

Still waiting on your thoughts(approval?)about the Democrat's Death Rally and if you still believe President Bush is "behind the mysterious sniper attacks in the Washington area".

Tom W.

Date:
11/03/02
Time:
08:56 PM

Comments

O joy! Al Gore is going to host Saturday night live:

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/11/3/110022

I can hardly wait.

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
05:02 AM

Comments

November 1, 2002, 8:51 AM EST

 

An unexpectedly dramatic rise in the nation's unemployment is certain to influence stocks as markets open for trading Friday. An hour before markets open, the U.S. Labor Department reported that the nation's unemployment rate rose to 5.7 percent in October and that the economy lost another 5,000 jobs -- a second consecutive month of losses.

 

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
05:57 AM

Comments

Unemployment Rate only ticked up one tenth to 5.7% versus expectations of a two tenth increase to 5.8%.

Also the Feds are expected to cut interest rates again this week - a good time to refinance that house and save yourself thousands of dollars.

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
09:49 AM

Comments

George Bush could never get away with his blatant LIES if he didn't have the media in his pocket!!

The major news media has finally reached the conclusion that George W. Bush can be "malleable" with the truth, especially in his comments about Iraq. But the problem of Bush's dishonesty is far deeper, tracing back through his privileged life in which there has been little accountability for lies and deception.

For the full story, go to Consortiumnews.com at

http://www.consortiumnews.

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
10:28 AM

Comments

GEORGE BUSH, SR ON TRUTH: "Truth will get you broke—or dead."

JEB BUSH ON TRUTH: "The truth is useless. You have to understand this right now. You can't deposit the truth in the bank. You can't buy groceries with the truth. You can't pay the rent with the truth. The truth is a useless commodity that will hang around your neck like an albatross—all the way down to the homeless shelter. And if you think that the million or so people in this country that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them the truth, you got another think coming. Because the million people in this country that are truly interested in the truth don't have any money." (Bushwhacked, P. 162)

 

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
12:02 PM

Comments

You have an example of President Bush Lying?

(I won't even mention how hysterical it is for a liberal to bring up lying after the 8 years of the Clinton Presidency)

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
03:59 PM

Comments

More than 2 million lost jobs since President Bush took office, unemployment at 5.7 percent, consumer confidence at a 9-year low, record surpluses squandered, $5.7 trillion lost in the stock market. Is this a record that Americans will want to endorse tomorrow? Are you better off than you were two years ago? That is the question Americans will be asking themselves as they go to vote.

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
04:32 PM

Comments

 

Lets not leave anyone in the dark.

 

Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security? A: The Democratic party.

Q: Which party increased the tax on Social Security? A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the deciding vote.

Q: Which party decided to give your Social Security money to immigrants? A: That's right, the Democratic Party. Immigrants that move into this country at 65 get SSI and have never paid a dime into the system. This is costing us millions of dollars.

Then, after doing all this, the Democrats turn around and tell you the Republicans want to take your Social Security away from you.

The worst part about it is that people forget who did what!

What can you do? Circulate this to remind people so they'll `remember' it during the November vote!!!

 

Have A Great Day!

 

 

Date:
11/04/02
Time:
11:49 PM

Comments

I was wondering. If the democratic party is the party of the common man, the young, the black, the hispanic, women and all minorities why, when thay had 2 spots to fill for the Senate campaign, they chose old, rich, white men?

 

Guess they don't really practice what they preach.

Date:
11/05/02
Time:
05:14 PM

Comments

That's why Republicans have a chance to gain seats in the House and Senate during midterm elections while a same party holds the white house for the first time in 102 years.

People are finally seeing Democrats for what they are: fear mongers and liars.

It may not happen, but wouldn't it be grand.

Date:
11/06/02
Time:
05:49 AM

Comments

GOP takes control of the Senate and picks up even more votes in the House!

 

Sweet!

 

After the shock wears off I suspect the Democrat's will let the lawsuits fly!

Date:
11/06/02
Time:
10:07 PM

Comments

I think the vote says several things:

 

A. Bush vindicated. The chorus of Bush critics who have attempted to position him as an interloper and a pretender are now silenced. Bush has broken precedent and for only the third time in history, seen his party not only hold its own but GAIN seats in BOTH houses of Congress during the midterm election. Stunning.

 

B. Clintonism repudiated. If the Democratic Party is to remain viable, its leadership must come out of denial and realize that Bill Clinton is a destructive force. It was Clinton who lost Congress to the GOP in 94 and this year, Democrats who relied on Clinton's support failed miserably. Case in point: Florida. The best thing that could happen for the GOP would be to have Hillary on the 2008 ticket. I hope she'll run.

 

C. Liberals, who traditionally depend on judicial appointments to implement programs they can't win support for in the legislative process, are losing their ability to pack the bench with leftist jurists. Democratic Party favorites such as abortion, affirmative action, anti-business regulation, as well as a host of anti-religious dogmas, are now becoming vulnerable to conservative judges.

 

All in all, I am heartened by Tuesday's results. It's my sincere hope now that the GOP will look forward and put the pedal to the metal. There's a lot to do.

Date:
11/08/02
Time:
03:56 PM

Comments

Here's some excellent food for thought by General Omar Bradley:

We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the Mount. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we do about peace.......more about killing than we do about living.

Date:
11/08/02
Time:
05:25 PM

Comments

While reading an editorial Matilda posted on this website by Lisa Kadanga (contributing to Liberal Slant)I saw one of the things that really aggravate me. Democrats are spineless.

Bush gets elected President and they threaten to leave the country. GOP sweeps the house and the Senate, they whine and threaten the same thing. (That's what Kadanga was whining about)

The GOP and the founding fathers has a common desirable trait: they didn't whine and threaten to leave when things didn't go their way. The early colonists fought for what they believe in and when Clinton and the Democrat were in their glory, the GOP rallied, fought back and won.

That's the attitide that made this country great. Thank God the attitude of today's pathetic liberals was absent in early America. Our country wouldn't be the great one it is today.

So if Babs and the whining liberals who are threatening to leave the country want to follow Matilda and leave, DO IT! I'll drop you all off at the airport. I have a big, gas guzzling SUV that would hold a whole bunch of you. I'd even make more than one trip or get some of my friends in their SUV's to help transport if there are too many of you.

We don't need weak people here. Follow Matilda and leave already. Nevermind I forgot, you're spineless.

RB

Date:
11/09/02
Time:
03:59 AM

Comments

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln in letter to Col. William F. Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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