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CommentsEistein said: "first of all, if you are driving while intoxicated then you are primarily at fault: the tree, the car, and the bar are totally irrelevant; if you are breaking the law to begin with, chances are that your so-called 'lawsuit' would'nt even get within a mile of the courthouse" Wrong. In Louisiana, on I 10 near the texas border there was an outcry because the State was cutting down 100+ year old trees that were in the median between the east and west bound lanes. Why? because there were too many lawsuits over drivers hitting the trees when they fell asleep, or were drunk and dove off the road. Fortunately, the public outcry saved many of the trees, but not before 30 or 40 of the pricelss 100+ giants were destroyed.
CommentsPundit said: "Eistien", are you referring to "Einstein"? if you are going to resort to name calling, for God's sake...spell it correctly! As for what the state of Louisiana has done recently, i really wouldn't know since i am from New York, so i obviously was unaware of the what was happening in the backwoods on I-10 near the Texas boarder. Perhaps if the folks in your neck of the woods chose to act more responsibly, they would not have to cut down the trees, since the trees are obviously not the problem. If you want to get 'knit-picky', i could talk about some things that are going on where i live that you know nothing about...'Eistein'. I notice that the pundit has to resort to news on a very local "who cares" level, since they clearly are still avoiding many of the previous posts regarding major national and international issues: maybe there are too many big words?
CommentsTo the other person who thinks name calling makes them appear smarter...and i give you credit for at least spelling 'Einstein' correctly...in case in your infinite legal wisdom you forgot, it is illegal to set 'booby-traps' in any home or business. it is regarded as a form of vigilanteism, which as you should know is also illegal. as for shooting an intruder: depending on the circumstances, there have been numerous situations where the home / business owner used excessive force, especially when the intruder was shot in the back attempting to flee. the police are not allowed to shoot fleeing suspects in the back either. i have read many of these stories about home-owners defending themselves against intruders, and i will tell you that most of them are not as they seem. my father was a medical examiner for over thirty years, and personally investigated thousands of wrongful 'executions' of people by individuals who claimed that they were protecting themselves: and it never failed that the local newspapers would hail them as a 'hero' long before the investigation was ever completed. many of these 'heroes' ended up being found guilty of murder once all of the facts were in. so don't believe everything you read in the news or online...you don't get the entire story.
Comments...and i forgot to add: so if the legal costs are so astronomical, why do you think so many people oppose Bush's Tort Reform attempts? will the creation of a $250,000 dollar limitation make things better or worse? for someone who claims that they did 'research', using 'Yahoo' of all things, you fell short with your arguments. as for my attitude towards 'the pundit', i strongly suggest you go back and read the collection of their 'baiting' comments and clear ignorance of the issues, not to mention a dictionary of name-calling. i actually did some 'real' research and found the information...i did not fabricate it. if you think my 'standing up' to people like this using backed-up knowledge is 'arrogant', so be it, it is your right to have objections, and at least i would never try to silence your voice, unlike many out there who are attempting to. if you don't believe me, just visit a few right-wing sites to see their tolerance regarding "Freedom of Speech". i have been a big fan of Bill Maher from his Comedy Central days to his recent resurrection on HBO. his book "Riding With Bin Laden" is great. if you listen to Bill and what he has to say, he is alot more critical than me. people on the right are afraid of him, and his good friend Michael Moore. oh yea, and never say or apologize that you "don't mean to sound harsh" and then follow that statement with another insult...it makes you look like a liar. if you mean something, stand by it and don't make excuses after wards. it's like when people say: "let me be honest with you...", or "to tell you the truth..."; what do you expect, the truth?
Commentshello
CommentsOk, for national news that has been ignored by this group. How about the Dimocrats (must be a typo, like Eistein) playing political gains to keep Miguel Estrada, President Bush's nominee to the D.C. Circuit Court from being appointed. He is the first Hispanic ever nominated, who the American Bar Association unanimously gave its highest qualification rating. Remember: the left considers the ABA's blessing the key factor. The Republicans have 55 or 56 votes to confirm Estrada, and the Constitution says they only need 51. Democrats want to effectively and illegally amend that requirement to a super majority of 60 votes - the number needed to break a filibuster - and thereby shred the Constitution of the United States and steal a presidential power.
CommentsThe Bush Cartel: They've hijacked God -- and they've hijacked democracy. Don't give up the fight. Your lives and the future of this great country are at stake. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are driving us on a power-drunk 200 miles per hour joy ride into the jaws of Armageddon. This isn't democracy. It's insanity in a ten-gallon hat. A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL
CommentsWhat kind of drugs have you been taking?
CommentsWhy haven't the "liberal pundits" replied to the person who posted on the Estrada filibuster?
CommentsThere is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it… The business of the Journalist is to destroy truth; To lie outright; To pervert; To vilify; To fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and or lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes. – John Swinton, former Chief of Staff, The New York Times, circa 1880
CommentsEinstein, you sure get testy. May be it has to do with being from New York. I once had a stopover in New York on a flight back from Paris, and New Yorkers made the Parisians seem charming by comparison. Quite an accomplishment. Coincidentally and very appropriately, I just finished reading that the average fee per lawyer working on New York's portion of the 1998 multistate tobacco settlement was $14,000 an hour(source: State Supreme Court Justice Charles E. Ramos of New York ). Does that qualify as a local "who cares" news item? It seems you dismissed the poster from Louisiana as a backwoods hick, just what I would expect from the northeastern elite who know better than the rest of the country. I will challenge you to prove that high awards have made our existence safer. It should be easy for you to demonstrate that states without malpractice caps have better medical outcomes and survivals than those states with such caps. Maybe you can tell us all how a 40% lawyer tax added to the price of a ladder has made it a safer utensil. Regarding the post on vigilantism (please note the correct spelling) being illegal: I agree with you. I may sympathize with the owner who was trying to defend his property, but if he broke the law, the consequences should be set in the penal code, not by a mob of ambulance chasing lawyers. In any case, I am truly impressed by your medical examiner father who "personally investigated thousands of wrongful 'executions' of people by individuals who claimed that they were protecting themselves". Chicago led the nation in 1998 with 698 murders, New York had 646 in 2001. About two thirds of those were by firearms. Many of the rest of those were gang and drug related. That does not leave many that may have been committed by home owners protecting their homes or property. Since New York has strict gun laws restricting law abiding citizens, you may prefer New Orleans, which once led the nation's murder rate. However, despite (or perhaps because of) citizens being able to apply for concealed weapons permits, there were only 164 murders in 2000. Again, that does not leave many self defense cases. I submit that you pulled your statistics from a place where the sun rarely shines. Rather than call you a liar, I will ask you to tell what city we are dealing with, and I will gladly attempt to do the research to prove that you assertion is an impossibility. Bring it on!!!
CommentsRe: Hello Hi
CommentsAnn Clwyd: 'I support the government. It's doing a brave thing' Patrick Wintour, chief political correspondent Thursday February 27, 2003 The Guardian Labour leftwinger Ann Clwyd, a long-standing supporter of Kurdish rights in northern Iraq, last night in the Commons recounted individual horror stories of the suffering inflicted on ethnic minorities by Saddam Hussein's regime. Ms Clwyd told MPs: "I believe in regime change, and I say that without any hesitation at all, and I will support the government tonight because I think it's doing a brave thing." Returning from Kurdistan this week, she said she had cried after hearing from victims of torture. Ms Clwyd, MP for Cynon Valley, told of an under-nourished university teacher who had given birth in prison and begged guards for milk to feed her child. The guards refused and the baby died. "For three days she held that baby in her arms and would not give the body up. After three days due to the 60-degree heat, the body of course started to smell, and [the woman] was taken away and killed." She also told of a 15-year-old boy tortured and crucified, and pinned against the prison window. When he begged for water a prisoner who came to his aid was beaten up. She found many refugees had been ethnically cleansed for being Kurds. "That's the reality of Saddam's Iraq," she said. "When I hear people calling for more time, I say, who is going to speak up for those victims? Who is to help the victims of Saddam's regime unless we do it?" She said the regime should be indicted for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, and it was her great regret that Britain had not led the way to regime change in Iraq when it had the chance during the first Gulf war.
Commentswhere is this person who is 'raving and ranting' incoherently getting their so-called facts? 40% of the price of a ladder is 'lawyer fees'? people that live in the northeast are 'elitists'? lawyers for big-tobacco companies made $14,000 an hour? and that's when they are not out 'chasing ambulances'! what planet are you from? what are you talking about? you have made no sense at all in your arguments. what are you trying to say with those 'crime and gun' statements anyway? i can't tell if you are for or against guns, and you seem to think that the majority of crimes are being committed by 'gangs': are you saying 'blacks and minorities' are committing the majority of crimes in this country? are blacks and hispanics responsible for the drug problem? because it sure sounds that way. your homicide rates are not accurate: it sounds like you got your info from the NRA, who are trying to scare all of the 'white people' in America with propganda! there were over 11,500 gun related deaths in the US last year, so you are coming up a bit short with those 'estimates'. you have also not provided any statistical info regarding any 'self-defense'cases, infact, you have shown no correlations between anything you have been talking about. in a previous post you claimed that there were many instances of home-owners defending themselves with a gun: now you have stated that there are very few home-owners that have protected themselves with a gun. well, which is it? you are so typical of those on the right: you talk alot about absolutely nothing, and are an obvious expert at it. keep listening to Rush Limbaugh and tell us all what he has to say today. "Bring it on!" wow, you sure are confident in you own mind! i better not mess with you! idiot.
CommentsIf Saddam is so damn evil, then why did the US goverment put him on the payroll for over a decade? or did he recently become an evil bastard? i find the hypocracy so overwhelming: these people want to go to war now to save the Iraqi people? where was this compassion and caring 10 years ago? 15 years ago? oh, that was when the 'evil dictator' was your friend, and you gave him billions of dollars, weapons, and the means to produce biological and chemical agents. this was 'good' as long as Saddam murdered Iranians; it was 'bad' when he invaded Kuwait and threatened US oil interests in the region. Americans have a bad habit of becoming 'humanitarians' only when their money and resources become threatened. take off the mask, everyone already knows what is underneath it...and it's not a pretty face.
Commentsthe Democrats want to 'shread' the Constitution? i guess someone must have picked up all of the pieces and taped it back together again after the Repunditcans tore it up back in 2000.
CommentsThis editorial pretty much sums up the problem with lawyers today as well as the mindset of the liberal establishment: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/kathleenparker/welcome.shtml
CommentsTHE REAL AGENDAS: And one reason to pay only limited attention to the howls of outrage as the U.S. and U.K. do what is necessary is the fact that very little of the opposition to this war is actually about this war. For some it's about "war" in general - a newly empowered new age pacifism. For France, it's about ... France, and its eclipse as a power of any significance. France's crisis is deepened by the fact that a successful war against Saddam could also accelerate the end of the Franco-German bloc as the power-house of the European Union. For Russia, it's about money. For the Germans, it's about a new national identity. The Germans have never been able to sustain a moderate polity on their own. They veer from extreme romantic militarism to romantic pacifism. Their current abdication of all strategic responsibility for Europe or the wider world is just another all-too-familiar spasm from German history. For the broader anti-war forces in Europe, it's about American uni-polar power - and the need to counteract it, even if it's being put to good use. For still others, especially in the Vatican and France, it's the old Jew-hatred again. For the Democrats, it's about getting back to prescription drugs. For the anti-war left in America, it's really about Bush. The pent-up fury they felt after Florida never found expression or even validation in the wider culture. It was repressed in the first months of a new presidency - and then made irrelevant by 9/11. Finally, they have a chance to demonstrate their hate - which is why so much of the demonstrations' focus has not been on Saddam, Iraq or even war, but on Bush. The anti-Bush left knows that a successful war will only strengthen the president further and marginalize them even more - hence their utter desperation and viciousness today. This is their moment; and the demonstrations are their therapy. Meanwhile, a real and actual problem in global security is being addressed. Thank heavens that for some, this moment really is about Saddam. Andrew Sullivan
CommentsFRANCE IN CRISIS: Fascinating interview in Le Monde with Bernard Kouchner, former socialist minister of health and founding member of Medecins Sans Frontieres. Here's my translation of the last couple of questions and answers: Le Monde: So France is in an impasse? BK: Dead right we're in an impasse. We've deepened the wound in Europe rather than healing it. We've enabled German pacifism, which was a mistake. We've brutalized the Eastern Europeans who have just emerged from dictatorship. That was a second mistake. And then we've opened up a serious split with the United States. That's the charge I bring against the president of the Republic. Le Monde: And your friends, the Socialists? You blame them too? BK: You bet. France's role, before all others, is to be concerned about human rights and to fight dictatorship.Before we write off all of France, we should be aware that some of the French entirely understand the damage Chirac has done to himself, his country, and the security of the world.
CommentsIRAQ WAR WILL FEED THE HUNGRY MAWS OF "THE MERCHANTS OF DEATH...NOTHING WILL CHANGE." "Maybe you think that after Saddam Hussein is gone, everyone will live happily ever after, but I'm here to tell you that it will be the same. Nothing will change. No liberal democracy is going to bloom in the ancient desert of old Babylonia. No American will be able to say "I'm safer and freer now" because those young people died in Iraq. No Iraqi standing in the rubble is going to say, "Gee, I'm glad the Americans got rid of Saddam by destroying my home and my family." All this war is going to accomplish is to add to the world's store of misery - more death, more wounded, more destruction, more debt, more poverty, more hatred, more profits for the merchants of death, more pollution and more terrorism. " 3.04.03 www.bushwatch.com
CommentsRe: Miguel Estrada nomination to US District Court of Appeals The previous post on M Estrada, being considered right now for appointment to the highest court, leaves out some very important points: Mr. Estrada has been denounced by many, his opponents, obviously, as an idealogue and one who is unable to break from his own right-wing beliefs when making a judgement. As far as his Hispanic background is concerned, i think this is a moot point to most reasonable Americans, since what is required above all is the top qualified person for the job. That kind of thinking is what has given affirmative action a bad name. And finally, the tensions over Mr. Estrada's appointment are exactly what is needed to examine his case, his opinions and how likely he is to serve the Court of Appeals for ALL Americans. If anyone has further questions about this matter, I suggest you google Mr. Estrada and judge for yourself.
CommentsEinstein, the fact that you don't understand my posts does not diminish their factuality. Maybe it is because I am from planet earth that you don't understand, since even if your whole body does not reside there, there is no doubt that your head is firmly implanted in planet Uranus. Regarding the lawyer's fees, here are a couple of places you can read, since you are obviously too mentally challenged to do your own research. It does not have the pictures most of your books have, the print is more than likely smaller than you are used to, and you may need someone to tell you the meaning of any polysyllabic words: http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1024078863220 http://www.mwe.com/info/pubs/amlawdec2002.pdf http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=1011 (it's toward the bottom under the heading ...$200,000 an hour) http://www.texansforreasonablelegalfees.com/nyjudge.asp http://www.mwe.com/info/pubs/amlawdec2002.pdf Very well. Now that I feel I have vindicated the veracity of my posts, I challenge you to find faults with what I wrote, and please give verifiable facts and links, not your usual unfounded hysterical rantings. I will also renew my request for the name of the city where your "father was a medical examiner for over thirty years, and personally investigated thousands of wrongful 'executions' of people by individuals who claimed that they were protecting themselves". The statistics I cited were to give you an inkling that your numbers were beyond the realm of the possible. In short, it appears that your penchant for prevarication is exceeded only by your monumental stupidity.
CommentsOh, Einstein, I forgot to add: Bring it on, moron.
CommentsWell Mr. Liberal pundint, I'm going to assume you will ignore all the excellent posts the writer had about the lawyers. You seem to think that the liberal dimocrats are don't want Estrad because he's not qualified? Right not qualified!! His Credentials: After leaving law school, Miguel Estrada, President Bush's nominee for the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, clerked for a federal appeals court judge. He then clerked for Anthony Kennedy at the U.S. Supreme Court. He was then a federal prosecutor in the U.S. attorney's office in New York, and was appointed to serve the solicitor general of the U.S. in the Department of Justice - under both Bush 41 and Clinton. He was an assistant solicitor general under Clinton. Miguel Estrada has argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court - and won two-thirds of them. Also check out proof liberals don'r care about his qualifications: http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york030403.asp Hate to burn you twice in the same evening.
CommentsThis from inside the Bush administration: "We have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of the American people, since the war in Vietnam," wrote John Brady Kiesling, a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Foreign Service in his letter of resignation last week to Secretary of State Colin Powell. Kiesling, who was political counselor in U.S. embassies throughout the Mideast, added that "until this administration, it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president, I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer."
CommentsTo be fair, if you consider Mr John Brady Kiesling to be newsworthy since he was a Bush insider, you must have given credence to Mr Gary Aldrich's claims during the last administration. Please note that I pass no judgement on either gentleman.
CommentsMy gentle readers, I know you've been having fun chatting back and forth on this Message Board. If it does nothing else, it helps you get things 'off your chest'....and that's fine, whatever your persuasions are. But now I implore you to open your hearts and minds and read the article I'm listing for you. And please try to read it not vindictively if you're a liberal, and not defensively if your a conservative. Anybody can be wrong. The important thing is to look for the truth and recognize it when you see it. I hope I will hear from you either by email or on this board after you have read the following: "Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true." http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759
CommentsThe article is, of course, the opinion of an author that is clearly against the Bush administration. His feelings and statements, though presented as fact, are not. Like it or not, the 911 attack was a modern Pearl Harbor. It was not orchestrated by the Bush administration. Yes, I beleive the public support it generated was used by the Bush administration to begin a war on terror that was long over due.
A few quotes on the subject: "If Saddam Hussein fails to comply and we fail to act or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop his program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of sanctions and ignore the commitments he's made? Well, he will conclude that the international community's lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on doing more to build an arsenal of devastating destruction. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow. The stakes could not be higher. Some way, someday, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal." -President Bill Clinton in 1998 Iraq under Saddam’s regime has become a land of hopelessness, sadness, and fear. A country where people are ethnically cleansed; prisoners are tortured in more than 300 prisons in Iraq. Rape is systematic . . . congenital malformation, birth defects, infertility, cancer, and various disorders are the results of Saddam’s gassing of his own people. . . the killing and torturing of husbands in front of their wives and children . . . Iraq under Saddam has become a hell and a museum of crimes." –Iraqi Safia Al Souhail, Advocacy Director of the International Alliance for Justice
"The Iraqi regime and its weapons of mass destruction represent a clear threat to world security. This danger has been explicitly recognized by the U.N." -Letter by Eight European leaders in support of the United States In 1991 Saddam killed 500,000 people when they rose against him. Nobody demonstrated against him then. But now the United States wants to get rid of the dictator, people are demonstrating against it.” -one of the Iraqi liberation soldiers the U.S. is training at "Camp Freedom" in Hungary
CommentsAre you aware of what out country is doing in order to get smaller countries to vote the way we want them to? Bribing, threatening, bullying? I'm so ashamed!!! Read this: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/un-m06.shtml
CommentsYou people....How can you be so blind. I am a New Yorker, and I truly believe in my heart the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by the Bush Administration. Speaking like a true New Yorker, "it wasn't suppose to go down like that" almost 3,000 people lost their lives needlessly. Why, you ask? Because the Bush Administration did not count on the NYPD and FDNY's problems with their communications equipment. The arrogance and bickering that exists between the two departments. NY's Braves, NY's Finest. It has always been a rivalry. Nobody shares information. The Bush Administration thought the city of NY will bail them out and save all those people in the towers. But...we screwed it up didn't we. I believe somebody is not going to be able to sleep any longer at night in the comfort of their home, knowing what we did. The truth shall come to light my friends. The Bush Administration planned the attacks, make no mistake about it. Everybody was here on that day, FEMA, the FBI. Why did it take NORAD 28 minutes to report those planes missing? Why were fighters scrambled from a base 180 miles away when seven other bases had fighter jets ready that could have done the job in a fraction of the time? Drills were been simulated downtown, that very morning, by the FDNY and NYPD, why? Ask yourselves, why? Why that day? Peter New York
CommentsPeter, You stocked your house with food and traded all your money for gold in preparation for the Y2K disaster didn't you?
Commentsthe goverment has been hiding stuff from us for a long time. If any of you dout that New York Peter is kidding, come read some of the the stuff they been hiding. If they lie about things like that they can lie about not knowing about 911. read http://www.rickhaehnel.com/ some of it was wrote by a doctor even, so its not like just anybody is writing this. I have read about all sorts of stuff the goverment is hiding, I can let you know of plenty more.
Comments``We no longer live in a world where only the actual firing of weapons represents a sufficient challenge to a nation's security.'' President Kennedy, during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis ``Do not let us split hairs. Let us not say, `We will only defend ourselves if the torpedo succeeds in getting home, or if the crew and the passengers are drowned.' This is the time for prevention of attack.'' F. D. Roosevelt, on Sept. 11, 1941 (note: we were at "peace" at the time, this was before Dec 7, 1941 when Japan declared war on the US. Germany did so on Dec 11, 1941)
CommentsVery funny, unknown person.... I did not stock up for Y2K. Fortunately for me I know a bit about computers and how they work, so I knew everything was going to be just find when the clock struck midnight. However, when you awaken from your hybernation, 20 years from now when someone writes a tell all book about 9/11, I'll be more than happy to be the first to say "I told you so". Wake up and take a wiff of the stench my friend. This goverment is not as nice as you think, and believe me when I tell you...Is it capable of anything. Take a look at south america. Maybe you'll get a better sense of what this goverment is really capable of! Peter in NY
CommentsAnd further more here is another example of how our "great" government hides things from the people. Wihy, I ask you, Why? http://www.omnimag.com/archives/features/supernatural/ Peter in NY
CommentsBush isn't a moron, he's a cunning sociopath By Bev Conover: http://www.onlinejournal.com/ Online Journal Editor & Publisher
CommentsIsn't it rather cowardly, what we are doing? to force a country to destroy its defenses and then attack it? Make it tolerate inspections but offer no tit-for-tat? Because tit-for-tat is what we were doing in the Eisenhower administration with Krushchev in 1955 -- designing a disarmament TREATY. It's so easy to win when you've already crippled your opponent. Eileenos
CommentsIsn't it rather cowardly, what we are doing? to force a country to destroy its defenses and then attack it? Make it tolerate inspections but offer no tit-for-tat? Because tit-for-tat is what we were doing in the Eisenhower administration with Krushchev in 1955 -- designing a disarmament TREATY. It's so easy to win when you've already crippled your opponent. Eileenos
CommentsIs there an echo here?
CommentsI seen something about louisianna in hear that's wher i live. allyou folks from up north shuld know we ain t ignor ant down hear. bring on soddam hussien, we will take care o his butt. cause ifn we didnt live hear we wood not be able to own computters an type on this hear website. bubba
CommentsEileen said, "It's so easy to win when you've already crippled your opponent. " What are you saying? You want to give them a chance? If we are at war, we should try for a complete, fast and devasating victory. This would decrease casualties on our side. Giving them a chance would be giving them a chance to kill Americans.
CommentsIt may not seem too smart the first time , but by the second time you post it, it makes twice as much sense.
CommentsThe Worst Mayors (1820-1993) Next, and seventh, is Cleveland's Dennis Kucinich (1977-79). Only thirty-one years old when elected, Cleveland's "boy" mayor had failings that were not the sins of venality or graft for personal gain, but rather matters of style, temperament, and bad judgment in office. Kucinich earned seventh place the hard way: by his abrasive, intemperate, and confrontational populist political style, which led to a disorderly and chaotic administration. He barely survived a recall vote just ten months into office, then disappeared for five weeks, reportedly recuperating from an ulcer. When he got back into the political fray, his demagogic rhetoric and slash-and-burn political style got him into serious trouble when he stubbornly refused to compromise and led Cleveland into financial default in late 1978—the first major city to default since the Great Depression. That led also to Kucinich's defeat and exit from executive office. Out of office, he dabbled in a Hollywoodesque spirit world and once believed he had met actress Shirley MacLaine in a previous life, seemingly confirming his critics' charges that he was a "nut-cake." After that, he experienced downward mobility, losing races for several other offices and finally ending up with a council seat; but more recently, he climbed back up to a seat in Congress. Bad judgment, demagoguery, and default also spelled political failure in the eyes of twenty-five of our experts, who ranked Dennis, whom the press called "the Menace," as seventh-worst. The American Mayor The Best & The Worst Big-City Leaders By Melvin G. Holli The Pennsylvania State University Press
CommentsWWW.KUCINICH.COM
CommentsWe are deeply divided, along fault lines that are not always clear to me. Where I see a petulant Uncle Sam sinking up to his tailcoat in the raw sewage of hypocrisy--bellowing, clutching his little flag in one hand and his little cross in the other--my neighbor may see the righteous wrath of a great nation wounded. Where I see the most cynical of domestic politics driving a suicidal foreign policy, editors who ought to know better claim to see strong leaders and American idealism in action. It makes me sick at heart to see liberal newspapers, like The News & Observer, slowly caving in to war fever, running ever more columns, cartoons and editorials that cast Saddam as the Antichrist. Please read the rest of this superb article at: http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2003-03-05/cover.html
CommentsAs debate rages back and forth across the Atlantic over the morality and acceptability of this assault against Iraq, it is interesting to note the German position. It was Germany who bought most completely into the war lie during the past century. It was the German people who, with their faith in country and leadership, and even their loyalty to the Fatherland, made possible the greatest nightmare the world has ever known. It is those same German people who stand today before Europe and the world in unflinching opposition to this latest world conquering force. How well do the German people know George W. Bush? ..........Better than they want to! TRUTHOUT
CommentsInteresting, some decry editorials painting Sadam as the antichrist. Judging from some of the opinions expressed here, you would think that Bush is a worse tyrant than Sadam. Sadam rapes, tortures and gases his own people, but we should give him another chance. As far as Bush is concerned, he set up 9/11, probably caused the shuttle disaster..... One thing I must admit to not missing is the destruction of common "little people" (ie Paula Jones, Juanita Broadrick, Dick Morris, Gary Aldrich....) by the people with the power of the US government behind them, as was practiced during the last administration to fight accusations of impropriety by the POTUS at the time. If you can't defend yourself, destroy the accuser.
CommentsRight, Bush is responsible for the 911 attacks, the Space shuttle crash, global warming and inventing SUVs. Well maybe Saddam is evil: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,635-592766,00.html http://hrw.org/reports/world/iraq-pubs.php http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/print/MDE140082001?OpenDocument Peter, from NY
CommentsWow. If all that is true, I'm a convert. Full speed ahead. A liberal in Arkansas
Commentsto the self-righteous right wingers: who do you keep calling 'Einstein'? from reading your posts, and visiting those so-called right-wing 'links' you provided, it is obvious that you guys are full of it. not to mention arrogant, ignorant, and very ugly: your language towards the poster reveals that you have alot of hate and anger...you obviously have some serious mental defects, and your rantings only reveal just how mentally unstable YOU are, not anyone else. it's funny how you try to make yourself feel better by insulting other people on this website...so typical of right-wingers: when your rhetoric and nonsense fails...make personal attacks! i bet you are a coward and insulting people via the web is the only means to make yourself feel better. how pathetic is that?
Comments"bring it on moron"...no wonder the world hates Americans. why go off to Iraq to kill people when there are plenty of assholes here to shoot?
CommentsI love it when liberals find themselves proven wrong and have no arguments - they start name calling.
CommentsEinstein II, since Einstein the first could not do it, maybe you can identify the faults in what I posted. Simply dismissing them as right wing does not exactly cut it in my book, but now that you have made that assertion, please defend calling law.com or the web page for McDermott, Will and Emery right wing links. Please put your information where your mouth is , there should be lots of room. Since you have chosen to defend him, please try to identify what city where Einstein the first may live. Here is a hint: his "father was a medical examiner for over thirty years, and personally investigated thousands of wrongful 'executions' of people by individuals who claimed that they were protecting themselves". You may find you are allied with a liar.
You may think I am mentally unstable, but I can still put together a coherent post with concrete supporting evidence, which is more than you or Einstein the first have ever shown an ability to do. Your post is just as devoid of substance as those of Einstein the first, and I would surmise your intellect is just as vacuous. Bring it on, moron II
Comments"why go off to Iraq to kill people when there are plenty of assholes here to shoot?" What an eloquent post, just what one could expect from some gun-crazy right wing militia type.
CommentsMoron II: No way could anyone say that CNN is a right wing web page. Now that Blix has knowingly withheld information he new during his oral report last week, can he be trusted. How much more of a smoking gun do you liberals need? Iraq has unmanned drones and cluster bombs: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/10/sprj.irq.main/index.html
CommentsHello my fellow readers! This is Peter in NY. Please note that the last 2 postings on 3/7 @ 3:21 p.m. and on 3/9 @ 7:45 p.m. were not posted by me. I don't know who this person is but whomever you are, please stop using my name to boast your beliefs. I am against the war in Iraq, yes, but I only express my opinion. If you really want to express your own, please use your own name. I think that the rest of you can tell the difference between me and the impostor. Just take a good look at the way he types.... Peter New York
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Every decade or so, we should remind ourselves of who the Iraqis are: 1. Twelve-thousand years ago, they invented irrigated farming. They got to be so good at it that, today; they can still produce all the food they need even when "sanctions" are imposed. 2. They invented writing. 3. They figured out how to tell time. 4. They founded modern mathematics. 5. In the Code of Hammurabi, they invented the first legal system that protects the weak, the widow and the orphan. 6. Five-thousand years ago, they had philosophers who attempted to list every known thing in the world. 7. They were using Pythagoras' theorem 1,700 years before Pythagoras. 8. They invented artificial building materials, some kind of pre-fab-crete stuff used to construct high-rise towers. 9. Ur, in southeast Iraq, is assumed to be the place we're all descended from. 10. They were the first people to build cities and live in them. 11. For thousands of years, they wrote the greatest poetry, history and "sagas" in the world. 12. Because they were great horse breeders, they invented the cavalry in war. 13. The Iraq Museum in Baghdad contains some of the most outstanding stone, metal and clay sculptures and inscriptions created in the history of the world. Some of them are more than 7,000 years old. 14. The first school for astronomers was established by Iraqis. This is how the "wise men" got to be so wise. They knew how to follow the star. 15. Beginning around 800 A.D., the Iraqis founded universities that imported teachers from throughout the civilized world to teach medicine, mathematics, philosophy, theology, literature and poetry. 16. For the first 1,200 years of its existence, Baghdad was regarded as one of the most refined, civilized and festive cities in the world. 17. Abraham, the father of Israel, was from Iraq. 18. Abraham, the father of Islam, was from Iraq. 19. Abraham, the father and "model" of Christian faith, was from Iraq. 20. Iraq is the second largest reserve of oil. 21. Before 1980, Iraq has the largest number of date palm trees in the world. 22. Iraqi wheat, rice, and meat are considered from the finest types in the world. 23. Iraq has the biggest soft water/population ratio in the world, seven rivers. 24. Iraqis are considered the Germans of Arabs with highest percent of highly educated people. 25. Iraq is one of the world's richest territories in historical sites and holy shrines. Saddam Hussein doesn't regard himself as the heir of Abraham, or even as the heir of Muhammad. He regards himself, first and foremost, as the heir of Nebuchadnezzar. He identifies, in other words, with the enslaver, not the enslaved. Everything we know about the rest of Iraq tells us that Saddam is the exception, not the Iraqis. Always remember: Saddam Hussein is not Iraq, and Iraq is not Saddam Hussein. Don't invade this country & kill, maim & cause misery upon these wonderful people, support NEVER ENDING inspections, we can wait him out, he won't live forever.
Commentscalm down conserva-nazis! if you think that you are right, then why do you keep coming back to this site? nothing better to do? who are the real "Morons"? take a wild guess: you guys probaly should not be talking. and yes, to nazi #1, your arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, though in your mind you are the expert on everything, so there is no point in discussing anything with you. and what is with little nazi #2? they just seem unable to think on their own. why don't you guys go visit Michael Savage's website, it's more along the lines of your mentalities, and should keep you entertained for awhile: there is even a message board where you guys and the rest of the nazis can share you dysfunctional veiws with one another. think of it as group-think therepy. who knows, you nazis just might make some new friends and go burn some crosses and beat-up some homosexuals and minorities. sounds like your kind of fun, does'nt it?
CommentsThe Pentagon has placed orders for extra bodybags for US troops: now is that a good sign? or do they feel not-to-confident?
CommentsI am the real Peter in New York. Peter
CommentsI don't know who you are buddy, but you are really starting to piss me off.... Peter New York
CommentsFor those of you who do not believe what this goverment, not just the Bush Administration, is capable of, please read the following: Chile In 1973, the CIA destroyed the oldest functioning democracy in South America. Twenty years later, the agency is still trying to deny its involvement. The CIA intervened massively in Chile's 1958 and 1964 elections. In 1970, its fears were realized-the socialist candidate, a physician named Salvador Allende, was elected president. Horrified, President Nixon ordered the CIA to prevent Allende's inauguration. The agency did its best to promote a military coup, but the Chilean military's long history of respect for the democratic process made this virtually impossible. One of the main impediments was the Chilean army's chief of staff, General Rene Schneider, so the CIA plotted with fanatics in the military to assassinate him. The killing backfired, solidifying support for Allende, who took office as scheduled. That approach having failed, the CIA was ordered to create a "coup climate." ("Make the economy scream," President Nixon told CIA Director Helms.) CIA-backed acts of sabotage and terror multiplied. The agency trained members of the fascist organization Patria y Libertad (PyL) in guerrilla warfare and bombing, and they were soon waging a campaign of arson. The CIA also sponsored demonstrations and strikes, funded by ITT and other US corporations with Chilean holdings. CIA-linked media, including the country's largest newspaper, fanned the flames of crisis. The military's patriotism was gradually eroded by endless stories about Marxist "atrocities" like castration and cannibalism, and rumors that the military would be purged or "destroyed" and Soviet bases set up. When the coup finally came, in September 1973, it was led by the most extreme fascist members of the military, and it was unrelenting in its ferocity. Allende was assassinated (some CIA apologists maintain he committed suicide-by shooting himself with a machine gun!). Several cabinet ministers were also assassinated, the universities were put under military control, opposition parties were banned and thousands of Chileans were tortured and killed, many fingered as "radicals" by lists provided by the CIA. Under the military junta headed by General Pinochet, torture of dissidents became routine, particularly at a gruesome prison called Colonia Dignidad. It drew expatriate Nazis from all over South America, one of whom told a victim that the work of the Nazi death camps was being continued there. No wonder the CIA tries to deny it was involved in the Chilean coup. It turned a democratic, peace loving nation into a slaughterhouse. Afghanistan During the Reagan years, the CIA ran nearly two dozen covert operations against various governments. Of these, Afghanistan was by far the biggest; it was, in fact, the biggest CIA operation of all time, both in terms of dollars spent ($5-$6 billion) and personnel involved. Yet it not only generated little controversy, but enjoyed strong bipartisan support. That's because its main purpose was to "bleed" the Soviet Union, just as we had been bled in Vietnam. Prior to the 1979 Russian invasion, Afghanistan was ruled by a brutal dictator. Like the neighboring Shah of Iran, he allowed the CIA to set up radar installations in his country that were used to monitor the Soviets. In 1979, after several dozen Soviet advisors were massacred by Afghan tribesmen, the USSR sent in the Red Army. The Soviets tried to install a pliable client regime, without taking local attitudes much into account. Many of the mullahs who controlled chunks of Afghan territory objected to Soviet efforts to educate women and to institute land reform. Others, outraged by the USSR's attempts to suppress the heroin trade, shifted their operations to Pakistan. As for the CIA, its aim was simply to humiliate the Soviets by arming anyone who would fight against them. The agency funneled cash and weapons to over a dozen guerrilla groups, many of whom had been staging raids from Pakistan years before the Soviet invasion. Today, long after the Soviet Union left Afghanistan (and, in fact, has ceased to exist), most of these groups are still fighting each other for control of the country. Besides tossing billions of dollars into the conflict, the CIA transferred sensitive weapons technology to fanatical Muslim extremists, with consequences that will haunt the US for years to come. One notable veteran of the Afghan operation is Sheik Abdel Rahman, famous for his role in the World Trade Center bombing. The CIA succeeded in creating chaos, but never developed a plan for ending it. When the ten-year war was over, a million people were dead, and Afghan heroin had captured 60% of the US market.
CommentsWe keep coming to this site because we live in a free country and have freedom of speech. If we can point out the contradictions in liberal thinking, you may start to question and see the light.
Another Peter in New York (seems to be a lot of Peters in New York)
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsCalling someone conserva-nazi is hardly the way to either prove your point or establish your credibility. Your assanine babling of stale cliches is not going to convince anyone with an IQ above the number of whatever teeth you may have left. If indeed my arguments have plenty of contradictions and faults, please point them out. I have been wrong before and doubtless will be again, and I do appreciate an intelligent discussion, something which no one has provided here. I initially posted regarding tort reform, and there have been several responses, but not a single one with substance, and with at least one blatant lie. I do check the facts before I post them, but no one who has responded has shown an inclination to be interested, much less influenced, by verifiable facts. I do not know if you are Einstein the first or his successor, or even another candidate for the title of moron in chief, but feel free to bring it on. For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your eq
CommentsI must have hit the wrong key somehow, and I still have no idea which, but I posted before I was finished. Needless to say, I have not had the luxury of proofreading the above post. But, to finish the last sentence: For what it is worth, I could go to Michael Savage's site and find your equivalent there; I have never been there but I have no doubt that many feel as strongly as you do (I am still unsure what you believe in other than your distaste for anything that comes from my keyboard). I have been to right wing sites and been received much the same as here. They tolerate questionning and analysis of their beleifs no better than you do. There are plenty of Einsteins and morons among all the political persuasions, and just as in your case, there are those whose paucity of information and weakness of reasoning does not support the strength of their convictions, whatever those may be. Finally, if your opinions cannot stand honest scrutiny, they should not be posted in the first place.
CommentsHoly cow! My computer may be having seizures. My apologies for the duplicate posts. I hope someone can delete them.
CommentsPerhaps once you get your keyboard fixed, and stop with the bantering back and forth that you and whomever the other culprit(s) in crime is, then maybe we all can have a civilized discussion without any name calling and just stick to 'the facts'. I have the feeling that nobody is bothering to post anything because they feel that there is no point. Last month I posted some rather interesting information I investigated about the oil pipline in Afganistan and the soon-to-be war in Iraq. I was hoping that there would be some responses, and now having checking back, there are none. I guess being on the west coast and with the time differences, maybe my posting was too early in the morning for some. anyhoo, i'll try again. The Carlyle Group: A Bush-Bin Laden Connection? Former president George Bush (Sr) is a primary adviser and investor to the one of the largest weapons contractors for the US military, the Carlyle Group, based in Washingtion, DC. This corporation, whose net worth is estimated to be over 12.5 billion dollars, owns and controls many of America's defense and aerospace companies. 'Investors' with the Carlyle Group include many former and present high-ranking government officials, including: Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of Defense; James Baker, former Secretary of State; former Prime Minister John Major (Britain); and Park Tae Joon, former South Korean Prime Minister. During the early 1990's, George W. Bush was placed as 'head of the board' of Caterair, one of the Carlyle Group's subsidiaries. George Bush Sr. got George Jr. the job. Several members of the Saudi Royal Family are also major contributors to the Carlyle Group: Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Saudi ambassador to the US, his father, and Prince Sultan lead a large group of wealthy Saudi investors, including the Bin Ladens, who all own large amounts of Carlyle Group, and thus have much influence regarding financial decisions. Even before the events of September 11, 2001, the Bin Laden family 'claims' to have 'dis-owned' their son Osama bin Laden, and cut their economic ties with the Carlyle Group, claiming 'family embarrassment and shame'. However, there have been reports that the Bin Ladens secretly transfered funds, in the millions, to Osama throughout 2002. Both the Bin Ladens and Bush families continue to make huge profits from the Carlyle Group, considering the massive increases in defense spending post-Sept.11, not to mention all of the former government officials. George W. Bush will thus recieve huge financial profits from his own administration's policies: a rather interesting conflict of interests. Sources: 'The Guradian', Oct.31, 2001: "The Ex-Presidents Club"; Tom Paine, Fall 2001, "Missing The Oil Story". *from "The A-Files".
CommentsVery informative post re: CIA activities around the globe. I am doing some 'independent research' into the shadowy world of the CIA. I'll post whatever I can find. With all of the things they have done, and continue to do, one has to question just whose side they are on. In one of the articles I posted last month, it is interesting to note that several high ranking people in the Bush Administration were deeply involved in CIA operations in South America during the 1980's: John Negroponte was incharge of training and arming rebel groups that butchered thousands of innocent people. Mr. Negroponte is now serving as abassador to the UN, and claims to have 'serious concerns' for the people of Iraq: if is compassion for human life is anything like it was during the Reagan Administration...i'll just leave it at that.
CommentsWhat it's like today, March 10: The U.S. Fails to Win More Support for Iraq Ultimatum,as former allies become more and more alienated fromthe Bush regime. North Korea Tests Missile after several warning. The U.S. Says Iran Is Pursuing Nuclear Arms. The DOW is down 171.85 to close at 7568 (Remember 10,000, not that long ago?) The economy is so stunted now that there's talk of cutting the interest rates yet again, to a 1958 low. (Soon they'll be paying US to borrow money.) The price of oil is staying steadily above $30 a barrel, and some think maybe they'd better stock up. The joblessness rate climbs to 5.8 percent. The Musicians' Strike Leaves Broadway Without Musicals Texas is set for its 300th Execution Since 1982. And somewhere deep in la la land, a rightwing pundit sighs and says, "Well, thank God Al Gore isn't in the White House."
CommentsOf all the Bush Cartel lies and betrayals, of all the breaches of faith, Bush's usurpation of God to advance his political agenda is perhaps the most heinous of his sins. By asserting that he can better discern God's will than the leaders of his own faith (Methodist), his father's faith (Episcopalian), his brother's faith (Catholic), and the leaders of virtually every denomination in the United States, short of the Southern Baptists and Evangelicals, Bush is committing the ultimate arrogance. They all oppose the war that Bush claims is being committed in the name of God and Jesus. Bush stands virtually alone in claiming that God is on the side of his little war. Buzzflash Editorial
CommentsOf all the Bush Cartel lies and betrayals, of all the breaches of faith, Bush's usurpation of God to advance his political agenda is perhaps the most heinous of his sins. By asserting that he can better discern God's will than the leaders of his own faith (Methodist), his father's faith (Episcopalian), his brother's faith (Catholic), and the leaders of virtually every denomination in the United States, short of the Southern Baptists and Evangelicals, Bush is committing the ultimate arrogance. They all oppose the war that Bush claims is being committed in the name of God and Jesus. Bush stands virtually alone in claiming that God is on the side of his little war. Buzzflash Editorial
CommentsI wonder if the same churches are in favor of leaving a dictator in power who tortures, murders and imprisons hundreds of thousands of people while trying to build technology to kill and injure millions of Americans and their allies? Guess it's how you ask the question.
CommentsWe are faced with a similiar question that has been asked, "If you had the chance to kill Hitler in 1930 and save millions of lives, would you do it?" I hope President Bush has the courage to.
CommentsPeter passed this on to me: George Will tackles several fallacies heard often among the pundit class, including the so-called Bush "rush to war." He's right on the money. George F. Will: Bush awaits permission from the passive By George F. Will - (Published March 4, 2003)
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/national/will/story/6213992p-7168616c.html
CommentsThere are so many problems with you Lefties that it's hard to know where to begin. I guess my biggest beef is with your blatant hypocrisy, which in turn stems from your moral relativism, which in turn stems from your profound lack of any true core beliefs (other than perhaps your unyielding belief in abortion on demand). We should all take a moment and bow to whatever God we pray to and thank him (not her) that George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the gang (Rumsfield, Rice, Powell, etc.) are in the White House leading (not polling) this country in the direction the world needs to be taken. Do we let Saddam go into his 12th year of flaunting UN resolutions, risking the unknown future chaos his hidden WMDs will later cause or do we act like adults and deal with the problem that's on the table? That's an easy question to answer. Dick from The Deep South
CommentsAs if there are no problems with the right and it's hypocracy. I think the main problem here...in the USA...is that the general public is being kept in the dark about important issues that affect us all: if i did'nt know better, i would come to the conclusion that the powers that govern us also do their best to keep us divided. it is easier to control populations that way. let's look at the situation from this angle: during the early 1980's, the Reagan Administration decided to 'get even' with Iran by backing a dictator named Saddam Hussien, who had just recently come into power. the plan was to get Saddam 'on our side', so our government supplied him with billions of dollars, weapons, and bio / chemical agents for the purpose of killing Iranians during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war. Donald Rumsfeld made frequent trips to Iraq, and met personally with Saddam to see how the war with Iran was going: after these meetings, 'Rummy' would return to Washington DC and give his report directly to Reagan, who would then write some more checks for Saddam, who was held in very high regard as "our greatest Middle Eastern ally". how times have changed. during this period, US oil companies and their investors, including Dick Cheney, George Bush, and his son George Jr., began creating an oil empire in the Middle East, mainly in Iraq, that would make them all very wealthy men. ironically, it was also during this time that a young George W. would go into business with Salem Bin Laden, Osama's older brother. the Bush and Bin Laden families became good friends and business partners, and remain so to this very day. so what happened? Osama found Allah...well, sort of. Osama felt that the American oil companies were getting a bit too greedy, and then Saddam decided that Kuwait should 're-join' Iraq, and thus US military troops set up camp in the Muslim 'holy land': Saudi Arabia. Osama saw an opportuninty to get the Muslim world involved: he declared himself the leader of a new 'Jihad' whose mission was to expell all non-believers...Americans...from the holy land. almost over-night the religious extremists came 'out of the woodwork' to fight the enemy that was violating the sacred lands of Mohammed. oops. Osama is not exactly a 'religious' man: he is using the ignorant masses to do his dirty work. Osama personally will not strap on a pack full of explosives, however, his personality rivals that of Jim Jones, and thus those who follow him will do his bidding. no questions asked. The US government grossly under-estimated the influence of Osama Bin Laden: he was simply brushed aside by two Republican and one Democrat president as a 'non-serious threat'. how wrong that turned out to be. the blame for Sept.11, 2001 falls upon the American government as a whole: they all were aware of the powder-keg in the Middle East that could explode at any time...'we the people' were kept ignorant of the possiblity of terrorist attacks on US soil. bureaucratic incompetence and government agency rivalries are also to blame: the people that were supposed to be 'on the job' protecting us were instead hoarding vital information in a vain attempt to out-do one another. i hope it was all worth it: the promotions and raises in exchange for innocent lives. while some of you call each each other "liberal" and "conservative", i will call you all what you really are acting like: "suckers". you have no idea of what is really going on 'behind closed doors' in Washington: your lives might as well be on the line, and you chose to waste your time bickering over nothing. wake up. things are about to go from bad to worse, and i am not referring to the soon-to-be war in Iraq: it is what will take place afterwards that should be of concern. the terrorists could care less about who is 'liberal' or who is conservative. nor will there bombs and bullets. "United We Stand...Divided We Fall". think about it.
Commentsi will post this question yet again: if Saddam is so evil, then why did the US gov't arm, fund, and supply him for nearly twenty years? i hope once the dust settles...and hopefully it won't be radioactive or full of bio-agents...that we demand that our government does not support anymore dictators or sell any type of weapons, not even a sling-shot, to any foreign nations. period.
CommentsIt has been recently discovered that Iran's nuclear capabilities are somewhat more than anyone had expected: information strongly suggests that Iran could pose a much greater threat than N.Korea. The Iranian government claims that it's nuclear program is 'for peaceful uses only': though the word around the Belt-Way is that Iran has been 'ignored' for too many years, and is probaly a greater threat than Kim Jong Ill. The Iranians are not so easily 'bought off' as the N.Koreans have proven to be: things might start to get more 'complicated' since Bush has indicated that 'Iran is next after Iraq'.
CommentsHey hero, my keyboard is fixed. Let's stick to facts. My recent posts have only dealt with a much needed change in the tort system, which somehow made me a right wing extremist. It must be because the ATLA donates so much to the Democratic party. That may be why I have incurred the wrath of one or more here. If you want to jump on the bandwaggon and add your name to the list of morons, bring it on. I doubt anyone has any worthy arguments against tort reform, but if you do, speak up. An intelligent reply would be a welcome change.
CommentsRE: i will post this question yet again: if Saddam is so evil, then why did the US ... Good point. But then, why do you chose to ally yourself with the Germans who slaughtered so many people this century? I guess it must because we taught them a lesson in 1918, and they have hardly bothered us since then.
CommentsHey, I am so happy my keyboard is working right again. See you soon.
CommentsThank you for your interest in covert CIA ops, around the world and especially in South America during the 80's. To those of you who really fear Iraq and Saddam Hussein, please read the following: The goverment and Bush Administration don't fear Saddam and the Iraqi army, why should we? Please read the following declassified document and let me know what you think. File: 0000001.txt Page: 0001 Total Pages: 2
CMAT NUMBER 1998159-0000031 --------------------------- SERIAL: DSA 129-90 BODY SUBJ: IRAQ: NAVAL THREAT TO US FORCES. D01: 13 AUG 90 MAJOR POINTS 1. THE PRIMARY THREAT POSED TO US FORCES BY THE IRAQI NAVY COMES FROM ITS EXTENSIVE INVENTORY OF NAVAL MINES. 2. IRAQI MISSILE-ARMED PATROL BOATS, INCLUDING THOSE CAPTURED FROM KUWAIT, MISSILE-EQUIPPED NAVAL HELICOPTERS, AND COASTAL DEFENSE MISSILES PRESENT A LESSER THREAT. 3. STYX, EXOCET, AND SILKWORM MISSILES CURRENTLY CONSTITUTE THE INVENTORY AVAILABLE TO IRAQI NAVAL FORCES. DISCUSSION 4. IRAQ HAS A DIVERSE INVENTORY OF MOORED-CONTACT AND BOTTOM-INFLUENCE MINES ACQUIRED FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES. IT ADDITIONALLY MAY INDIGENOUSLY PRODUCE BOTH TYPES OF MINES, BY REVERSE ENGINEERING THEM FROM FOREIGN MODELS. ALTHOUGH THE IRAQI NAVY DOES NOT HAVE A SOPHISTICATED MINE WARFARE DOCTRINE OR DEDICATED MINELAYING PLATFORMS, PRACTICALLY ANY SHIP CAN CARRY AND DEPLOY MINES. IRAQ CAN ALSO USE HELICOPTERS IN THIS ROLE. THE IRAQI LEADERSHIP UNDOUBTEDLY RECOGNIZED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IRANIAN MINING DURING THE PERSIAN GULF WAR, AND IT MAY MINE GCC PORTS, SHIPPING LANES, OR OPERATING AREAS OF US NAVAL FORCES IF HOSTILITIES ERUPT. WHILE THE CRUDE IRANIAN MOORED-CONTACT MINES WERE EASILY NEUTRALIZED ONCE LOCATED, IRAQI BOTTOM-INFLUENCE MINES PRESENT A FAR MORE DIFFICULT PROBLEM FOR US AND ALLIED MINE COUNTERMEASURE (MCM) FORCES. 5. THE IRAQI SURFACE THREAT CONSISTS OF NINE AGING OSA I/II PATROL BOATS ARMED WITH THE SSN-2A/B (STYX) MISSILE; THE MISSILE HAS A RANGE 25 NM. THESE BOATS ARE POORLY MAINTAINED, AND THE NUMBER OF MISSION-CAPABLE UNITS IS UNKNOWN. 6. IRAQI OSA'S DO NOT TRAIN FOR ANY TYPE OF TACTICAL SCENARIO AND HAVE NOT FIRED A STYX MISSILE SINCE THE EARLY 1980'S. THEIR ABILITY TO CLOSE AND SUCCESSFULLY ENGAGE US WARSHIPS IS SUSPECT. HOWEVER, EVEN IF IRAQ HAS ACQUIRED THE MORE ADVANCED STYX, THE NAVY HAS NEVER PRACTICED OVER-THE-HORIZON TARGETING AND WILL PROBABLY BE LIMITED TO LINE-OF-SIGHT ENGAGEMENTS. 7. DURING THE FIRST DAYS OF ITS INVASION, IRAQ CAPTURED 6 EXOCET-EQUIPPED KUWAITI PATROL BOATS (1 LURSSEN FPB-57 AND 5 LURSSEN TNC-45'S), AND A CACHE OF MORE THAN 100 MM-40 EXCOCET MISSILES. THE NAVY IS APPARENTLY OPERATING AT LEAST ONE OF THE TNC-45'S, BUT ITS ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY FIRE AN EXOCET IN COMBAT IS DOUBTFUL, GIVEN THE NAVY'S GENERAL LACK OF PROFICIENCY AND ITS UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE SYSTEM. NONETHELESS, THE THREAT POSED BY THE CAPTURED KUWAITI BOATS SHOULD NOT BE DISCOUNTED. 8. IRAQ CURRENTLY HAS CSSC-3 SILKWORM COASTAL DEFENSE MISSILES DEPLOYED TO TWO SITES, AL FAW IN EASTERN IRAQ AND RAS AL QULAYAH NAVAL BASE IN KUWAIT. THESE SITES COVER BOTH THE IRAQI AND KUWAITI COASTLINES AND ARE INTENDED TO DEFEND AGAINST THE APPROACH OF ALLIED WARSHIPS AND A US AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT. 9. IRAQ HAS AN INVENTORY OF AN ESTIMATED 50 SlLKWORMS THAT HAVE A MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE OF APPROXIMATELY 50 NM (FUEL EXHAUSTION RANGE 60 NM). DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR, IRAQ LAUNCHED SILKWORMS AGAlNST OIL TANKERS TRANSITING TO BANDAR KHOMEINI BUT HAD LITTLE SUCCESS BECAUSE THE MISSILES WERE USED AT THE EDGE OF THEIR RANGE ENVELOPES. APPROXIMATELY 1 IN 10 MISSILES HIT ITS TARGET. ALTHOUGH IRAQ HAS NOT FIRED A SILKWORM SINCE 1985, THE NAVY PROBABLY HAS THE CAPABILITY TO USE THE SYSTEM EFFECTIVELY AT SHORTER RANGES. 10. THE IRAQI NAVY HAS A SMALL CONTINGENT OF SEVEN SUPER FRELON HELICOPTERS, FOUR OF WHICH MAY BE OPERATIONAL. THE SUPER FRELONS CARRY THE AM-39 EXOCET ANTISURFACE MISSILE AND, WITH A COMBAT RADIUS OF APPROXIMATELY 150 NM, THREATEN SHIPPING IN THE NORTHERN PERSIAN GULF. SUPER FRELONS OPERATED WITH SOME SUCCESS AGAINST MERCHANT CONVOYS TRANSITING TO BANDAR KHOMEINI DURING THE WAR. OUTLOOK 11. THE IRAQI NAVY IS A COASTAL DEFENSE FORCE THAT CANNOT EFFECTIVELY OPERATE FAR FROM TERRITORIAL WATERS. ITS SHIPS, AIRCRAFT, AND COASTAL DEFENSE MISSILES POSE A MINIMAL THREAT TO US NAVAL FORCES. NONETHELESS, IRAQ CAN COVERTLY DEPLOY A VARIETY OF BOTTOM-INFLUENCE AND MOORED-CONTACT MINES THAT WOULD CREATE A HXZARD TO ALL SHIPPING IN THE GULF.
Kind of makes you wonder what this war is really about, doesn't it? Gee! I wonder if the control of the petrolium market has anything to do with it? Peter New York
CommentsSomeone posted a comment with regards to bribing other countries onto backing our side in Iraq. Well, that is nothing new for this administration or any other for that matter. You don't even have to look very far to find evidence of it. Please take a look. The following is an excerpt from www.wakeupmag.co.uk/articles/cia5.htm CIA in Nicaragua But the war against Nicaragua continued. Reagan circumvented the ban on military aid to the contras by authorising "intelligence advice" of $13 million and "humanitarian aid" of $27 million to them, and in October 1986 Congress authorised another $100 million of aid for the contras. The United States's devastation of the frail Nicaraguan economy eventually resulted in the Sandinistas narrowly losing the country's second election. Exhausted and impoverished by ten long years of the war, people wanted the U.S. blockade lifted and Washington off their backs. Many queued to receive their $40 each for voting for the U.S.-favoured candidate Violetta Chamorra - an irresistible bribe if you have an annual income of less than $200. President George Bush called the result "a victory for democracy." U.S. State department official Elliott Abrams declared: "When history is written, the contras will be folk heroes." So you see, bribary to get our way is nothing new... Peter New York
Commentsin the November 2002 election, when some Florida voters pressed the touch-screen "button" for Bush's Democratic opponent, votes were instead recorded for Bush. "Misaligned" touch-screen voting machines were blamed for the computer-driven vote-theft, and when a losing candidate in Palm Beach sued to inspect the software of Florida's computerized voting machines, a local judge denied the petition, citing the privacy rights of the corporation that wrote the programs. Read it at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/03/12_vote.html
CommentsOh yeah, I know www.democraticunderground.com. Pete, you're grasping at straws. It the page so biased, if you post a conservative view, they erase it and ban your email address for life.
Try it if you don't beleive it.
CommentsI don't remember saying anything about being an "ally" with Germany. though while on the subject, the US gov't did support Hitler in the early 1930's in much the same way as they did Saddam in the 1980's. while bombs were leveling London, American companies were still shipping Germany steel and materials for it's military machine. the Nazi party had offices in several major US cities, and had agents to spread German propganda. German and Polish Jews were repeatedly denied immagration into the US, and were turned away by the shipload to meet there fate back in Europe. Would we be willing to accept immigrants comming from Iraq today? or would we turn them away?
Comments"The China Connection": Former president Bill Clinton often gets unfairly criticized for allowing the Chinese to have 'de-classified' nuclear information. as most of you might recall, a 'big issue' was made by the Republican party: however, the public was not informed of a 'money for weapons' program that had been up-and-running between the US gov't and the Chinese since the Nixon Administration, and had been expanded by the Reagan Administration. George Bush Sr. and several high-ranking Republicans made several 'unofficial' trips to China inorder to create an 'open market' for US manufactures to sell their products: it is no wonder that China has maintained "most-favorable nation" trade status with the US. what is even more interesting is that both Republican and Deomcratic Administrations have knowingly allowed a 'front' for the Red Chinese Army to export goods and products into the US marketplace, and thus reap billions of dollars, all of which help maintain and arm China. Another issue never discussed in the media is how much 'classified information' the Chinese have obtained from Russia, which seems to have no problem selling it to them. during the 'Cold War' years, the KGB managed to get their hands on alot more US secrets than we have been led to believe. and there also American traitors that are living freely in other parts of the world today: these individuals, whose actual numbers remain classified, are former military and intellegence personnel who decided that money was more important than democracy. the Chinese 'money trail' is decades old, and leads to many in the government, both Republicans and Democrats. equal amounts of 'Chinese contributions' seem to make it into the pockets of many US politicians, who are more than happy to accept it: so much for "campaign reform".
Commentsfor the person with the 'runaway keyboard': you got my attention...i decided to do some investigating...i am not up on the legal area, though i found some sites that seem to have fair debates both 'for' and 'against' Tort Reform: 'www.tompaine.com' has some good articles from people on both sides of the issue; "The Center for Justice and Democracy", 'www.centerjd.org' looks like a good debate site, though you have to join it inorder to participate. there is also a gov't site at 'www.house.gov/jec/tort/tort/tort.htm' that is entitled "Economic Benefits of Tort Reform': looks like the standard gov't publication, though is informative. let me know what you think.
Commentswww.democraticunderground.com bans posters and erases posts. This got me thinking that we should all be glad we live in a part of the world where we can express our views freely, no matter how outrageous they may seem to others. Most of the world does not have that luxury, and it makes our differing political opinions seem petty by comparison. I think all who visit here should give thanks to Matilda for allowing everyone access to a site where the posts are not censored.
CommentsDespicably, a Democratic congressman recently blamed Jews for the impending war with Iraq. Rep. Jim Moran, who represents voters from the Virginia suburbs around Washington, D.C., told a local audience: "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this." Then, playing to stereotypes of Jewish control, Moran claimed that "the leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should." Watch and see if there is an uproar like there was with Trent Lott's comments earlier this year. My guess the two faced Democrats won't be calling for him to resign or step down from any of his leadership positions.
CommentsMessage from a Republican:
How on earth have we arrived at this crucial juncture in our country's history? How has a war on terrorism been converted into an attack on Iraq? What threat does Iraq pose to us? We must lay the blame squarely on our congress, who according to our Constitution, only has the power to declare war. For congress to cede it's war-making power to the executive branch is unconstitutional on the very face of it and effectively destroys our three branches of government. Circumventing our Constitution is very bad, and the undeclared wars, which have resulted in our recent history, have had disastrous results. Undeclared wars have no declared objectives, and therefore can widen at will, and our foray into the Middle East will likely set in motion a long-term wave of retaliation. Indeed, I believe that the administration would like to entice Iraq into firing the first blow so some justification could be paraded at the United Nations. If the United States government can adopt this unreal doctrine of preemptive attack on any nation, anywhere, at any time, so can other nations! This is how world wars begin. If the President goes into Iraq alone without a UN resolution, he will be in violation of the war powers given him last October by congress which was contingent on UN approval. A constitutional crisis will occur. I grieve for our nation, and the untold suffering thatwill be wrought. As history has shown, you can possess the greatest armaments in the world, but if your cause and motives are not right, only catastrophe will result. Jack Walters, March 8, 2003
CommentsMy dear readers, I think you will enjoy this if you can open it: "http://www.markfiore.com/animation/dissent.html
CommentsI totally agree with you Mr. Walters. There is no basis for this war other than the benefits gained at the end of the war by those in our country who own oil companies. The Bush administration is, I repeat, is circumventing the constitution. The end result will be this: other nations and or states will attack the United States. There are no ifs and or buts about it. This nation will be under attack and we are the ones who will suffer. If one branch of our goverment can make all decisions, there is no need for the checks and balances system, is there? Remember, we are the ones who will suffer the consequences in the end... Peter New York
CommentsPeter, You must have missed the post. What about the Anti-Semetic Democratic congressman? Isn't that wrong? Should he be forced to step down? Where's the outcry? Ignoring it like the other Democrats? Peter
CommentsA high ranking Democrat says Bush made his case for a war against Iraq. When the war gets closer and the bombing starts watch them all waffle, Clinton Style. Democrats are poll driven. I'll say I told you so: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030313-875980.htm
CommentsHere is another Democrat (Zell Miller)who supports ousting Saddam: http://www.news4jax.com/jax/news4georgia/stories/georgia-194239220030129-070105.html
CommentsPeter, I apologize, I did not miss the post. I totally agree with you, Mr. Moran should step down. If he does not want to step down, he must be made to resign. His comments were absurd, inflamatory, racists, and degrading. Not just for Jews, but for those of us who categorized as other than american. I for one, was born and raised in Puerto Rico. I was not only upset about the comments made by Mr. Moran, I was offended and embarrassed at the same time. Peter New York
CommentsNot just for Jews, but for those of us who "are" categorized as other than american. "Sorry, just correcting my own spelling mistakes" Peter New York
CommentsWait, Peter and I agree on something?!?!? Maybe I'm wrong.
Peter, NY
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Comments...and Republicans are 'not' poll driven? c'mon now, these are all politicians we're talking about, not a bunch of choir boys.
CommentsBeing president is not always a glamorous job: when things are good, you are praised...when things go bad, you catch hell. On the whole, Americans usually tend to remember the bad things first, and the good things, well, way back in last place. Is it fair to be critical of a sitting president? Nothing in the Constitution says otherwise. It is every American's right to speak up and voice their views: regardless if those views are critical or supportive, niether should be silenced.
CommentsFormer Iran-Contra insider Al Martin tells all: "www.almartinraw.com"
Comments"How is the world ruled and led to war? Diplomats lie to journalists and believe these lies when they see them in print." - Karl Kraus Good site ... thanks for giving an alternative to the mainstream media. It seems the only rational arguments one can find in these outlets is in the letters to the editor. It's good to see that we're not all as ignorant as our leaders want us to be.
CommentsCivilian Iraq is utterly defenseless and totally unprepared for the carnage that is about to be visited upon them. It is murder plain and simple, murder on an unimaginable scale. There is no "war" looming, no "conflict" with Iraq, and no "standoff." What exists is a vast military force poised to inflict death and destruction on a major population center. Those who live there will attempt to defend themselves, but they will fail, and the dead will cover the ground like a fallen forest. Should this act of insanity proceed, it will stand as one of the greatest crimes against humanity ever recorded.
CommentsIn the end, Bush is going to war for two reasons. First of all, the Iraq war offers him and his Vietnam service evading administration many political positives from their perspective, including (but not limited to): 1. The permanent war public relations strategy is, in large part, aimed at keeping any of the numerous Bush domestic disasters off of the political table. War supersedes even an economy down the tubes 2. Keeping the threat of terror simmering on the burner through ginned up and meaningless terror alerts scares Americans into supporting Bush, because they seemingly have no option, since they believe they are under a constant terrorist threat. This leads to a sort of "Stockholm Syndrome" for the nation as a whole. Most Americans look to their psychological tormentor for protection from an outside threat perceived as the more serious of two evils. 3. A war in Iraq offers almost bottomless billion-dollar profiteering opportunities for Bush Cartel campaign contributors and Bush administration officials. Halliburton, the Carlyle Group, etc. are all set to reap big financial benefits from the destruction of the Iraq infrastructure. Blow the country up with bombs paid for by taxpayers -- and then use taxpayer dollars to pay campaign contributors and companies with connections to administration officials to rebuild it. A nice scam if you got a railroad car on the gravy train. To Read More of Editorial, go to: http://www.buzzflash.com/buzzscripts/buzz.dll/content
CommentsGeorge W. Bush is putting U.S. troops in an extraordinary "double jeopardy" if he orders them to invade Iraq without U.N. authorization. Not only will they be facing life and death situations on the ground, but they will be opening themselves to possible war-crimes charges in the future. Plus, some military strategists view Bush's war plans as the worst sort of wishful thinking. For the full story, go to Consortiumnews.com at: http://www.consortiumnews.com _
CommentsDear readers, If you would like to understand how the White House Press corps functions, don't miss this article: http://www.nypress.com/16/11/news&columns/cage.cfm
CommentsDes malfaiteurs gravent une étoile de David sur le poignet d'une étudiante juive AIX-EN-PROVENCE (AP) - Trois malfaiteurs cagoulés ont gravé une étoile de David avec un objet métallique coupant sur le poignet d'une étudiante juive de 21 ans après l'avoir agressée mardi soir à son domicile d'Aix-en-Provence (Bouches-du-Rhône), a-t-on appris mercredi de source judiciaire. Les pistes d'un acte raciste ou d'un conflit personnel sont évoquées par les enquêteurs du commissariat de police d'Aix-en-Provence. Cette jeune fille venait d'assister à un débat sur le conflit israélo-palestinien au cinéma "Le Renoir" à Aix-en-Provence quand elle a été agressée à son domicile, deux ou trois heures plus tard. Une enquête a été ouverte pour "violences aggravées", selon une source judiciaire.
CommentsInteresting! http://www.buzzflash.com/buzzscripts This has been a very elightening article about the reasons why the Bush administration has decided to go to war with Iraq in the first place....Read the article, I recommended. It basically tells you everything I have been trying to tell you all along. P.S. Peter, yes you are wrong about me, I am not the enemy man! I'm just a regular joe trying to understand it all. Maybe my views are not shared by everyone, maybe they are not shared by a whole lot of people either. But they do make you think sometimes, don't day? Just wonder a little bit, about the America we live in.....I'm just tired of the lies. I wish we knew the truth, the whole truth, for once... Peter New York
CommentsSome reading for you: We can start fixing it now.
CommentsPeter, C'mon. We already said we don't accept arguments backed up by facts from COMPLETELY Democratic websites. It's too easy to print false information on your own webpage - both conservative and liberal. Only unbiased sources please.
CommentsWe, the American public, will probaly never know the 'inner workings' of our govenrment: all the more reason we should question their actions. regardless of whatever your political affiliation, never hesitate to ask 'why': this is an important freedom none of us should ever take for granted. asking questions is not 'un-patriotic', infact, we should all make are voices heard, and debate issues with the full spirit of democracy so many have fought to protect. let us not forget who we are and and where we live: Americans living in the greatest democracy in the world, with the freedom to express our views and opinions. let's not ever forget this, and be respectful of one another.
Comments...oops! that should read: "our voices heard...". sorry, i've got alot on my mind!
CommentsWhile i do not agree with the decisions of the current administration, i do support our troops 100%, and pray for their safety: God bless them!
CommentsWhy can't you war mongers see the obvious? We beat Sadam in 91. He agreed to disarm and we sent in inspectors. He tossed them out several years ago. Bush the cowboy started his destruction campain after 9/11 and invaded Afghanistan, and started to make noise against Iraq. Saddam finally saw the folly of going against UN mandates and let the inpectors back in. He must be scared of Hans Blix, because he is admitting to more and more weapons and agents all the time. He is even destroying some banned missiles. That does not stop a Bush hellbent on war who keeps on builing up armed forces in the region. Saddam keeps admitting to more and more, but Bush keeps on towards war. Why cant you see that Saddam is cooperating with the UN. The threat of sanctions from the UN is finally working. There is no need for the US to be threatening war. Saddam surely remembers the '91 war when the combined French and German forces advanced victoriously after defeating his armies at........ Well, never mind that, but the US forces have nothing to do with Saddam finally cooperating. Why can't you conservatives get a little brain and see that? Peter form Newark
CommentsSee men shredded, then say you don't back war “There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein’s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.” This is one of the many witness statements that were taken by researchers from Indict — the organisation I chair — to provide evidence for legal cases against specific Iraqi individuals for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. This account was taken in the past two weeks. Another witness told us about practices of the security services towards women: “Women were suspended by their hair as their families watched; men were forced to watch as their wives were raped . . . women were suspended by their legs while they were menstruating until their periods were over, a procedure designed to cause humiliation.” The accounts Indict has heard over the past six years are disgusting and horrifying. Our task is not merely passively to record what we are told but to challenge it as well, so that the evidence we produce is of the highest quality. All witnesses swear that their statements are true and sign them. For these humanitarian reasons alone, it is essential to liberate the people of Iraq from the regime of Saddam. The 17 UN resolutions passed since 1991 on Iraq include Resolution 688, which calls for an end to repression of Iraqi civilians. It has been ignored. Torture, execution and ethnic-cleansing are everyday life in Saddam’s Iraq. Were it not for the no-fly zones in the south and north of Iraq — which some people still claim are illegal — the Kurds and the Shia would no doubt still be attacked by Iraqi helicopter gunships. For more than 20 years, senior Iraqi officials have committed genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. This list includes far more than the gassing of 5,000 in Halabja and other villages in 1988. It includes serial war crimes during the Iran-Iraq war; the genocidal Anfal campaign against the Iraqi Kurds in 1987-88; the invasion of Kuwait and the killing of more than 1,000 Kuwaiti civilians; the violent suppression, which I witnessed, of the 1991 Kurdish uprising that led to 30,000 or more civilian deaths; the draining of the Southern Marshes during the 1990s, which ethnically cleansed thousands of Shias; and the summary executions of thousands of political opponents. Many Iraqis wonder why the world applauded the military intervention that eventually rescued the Cambodians from Pol Pot and the Ugandans from Idi Amin when these took place without UN help. They ask why the world has ignored the crimes against them? All these crimes have been recorded in detail by the UN, the US, Kuwaiti, British, Iranian and other Governments and groups such as Human Rights Watch, Amnesty and Indict. Yet the Security Council has failed to set up a war crimes tribunal on Iraq because of opposition from France, China and Russia. As a result, no Iraqi official has ever been indicted for some of the worst crimes of the 20th century. I have said incessantly that I would have preferred such a tribunal to war. But the time for offering Saddam incentives and more time is over. I do not have a monopoly on wisdom or morality. But I know one thing. This evil, fascist regime must come to an end. With or without the help of the Security Council, and with or without the backing of the Labour Party in the House of Commons tonight. The author is Labour MP for Cynon Valley.
CommentsProtesting his war isn't about the horrible things that Sadam has done or even the things he is capable of doing with weapons of mass destruction. When will you learn that they are protesting the war because they hate George Bush. They hate everything about him and the liberals will be against anything he does. It's time that all conservatives and anyone else with morals understand that.
CommentsThe Simon Wiesenthal Center today issued the following statement on behalf of famed Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal: "As a survivor of the Nazi Holocaust who lost 89 members of my family, I have experienced firsthand the horrors of war and bloodshed. I know that in any conflict many innocent lives will be lost. But history has taught us that the consequences of ignoring evil and terror pose an even greater risk for mankind. The world has confronted Saddam before, but for twelve years he has refused to listen. President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and Prime Minister Jose María Aznar of Spain, do not seek to conquer Iraq but rather to confront a dictator who has used weapons of mass destruction and committed genocide against his own people. I have spent a lifetime pursuing the perpetrators of evil, not for revenge, but in search of justice and in order to protect future generations from the horrors that I have lived through. My experience has taught me that you cannot wait indefinitely on dictators. Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, but for six years the world did not act. Had he been taken seriously then, the lives of innocent millions may have been spared. We must remember that freedom is not a gift from heaven, we must fight for it every day."
CommentsFrance may help us if Iraq uses the chemical or biological weapons that France is convinced Iraq does not own: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/18/sprj.irq.france.chemicals/index.html
Comments"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." - General George Patton
CommentsFrance Sends French Navy to Gulf: http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/8901.jpg
CommentsProtesting! Are you kidding us? We don't hate George Bush. When will you understand what this war is about? It is not about the horrific things Saddam is capable of doing and has done. This war is about oil man, and how much money the Bush buddies are going to make during and after this so called "liberation of Iraq". Get it right man...we are going in there to destroy this country, steal its wealth and then make billions in profits from the rebuilding process...Are you kidding or are your blinders on too tight? Peter New York
CommentsGuess you've missed the part about the Dictator that tortures and murders his countrymen and has ignored UN santions and continued murdering, torturing and developing weapons of mass destruction. Typical liberal.
CommentsOHN BURNS ON IRAQ: Here's the great New York Times' reporter's comments on PBS last night: Iraqis have suffered beyond, I think, the common understanding of the United States from the repression of the past 30 years here. And many, many Iraqis are telling us now, not always in the whispers he have heard in the past but now in quite candid conversations, that they are waiting for America to come and bring them liberty. It's very hard though for anybody to understand this. It can only be understood in terms of the depth of the repression here. It has to be said that this not universal of course... All I can tell you is that as every reporter who has come over here will attest to this, there is the most extraordinary experience of the last few days has been a sudden breaking of the ice here, with people in every corner of life coming forward to tell us that they understand what America is about in this. They are very, very fearful of course of the bombing, of damage to Iraq's infrastructure. They are very concerned about the kind of governance, the American military governance, that they will come under afterward. Can I just say that there is also no doubt - no doubt - that there are many, many Iraqis who see what is about to happen here as the moment of liberation.
CommentsTo Typical liberal. Guess what? We didn't miss the part about the tortures and murders. We know Saddam must be replaced but not by a puppet of the US! Thats not liberating the people, thats world domination and continued opression. So what the women get to wear a little make-up, whoopy! So you say we missed that part ha? I wonder were you were during the 70's when our goverment made billions from the sale of heroin in our own country once it was introduced to american soldiers in Vietnam, mind you!, by the american govermnet. Oh! and let us not forget the 80's when we, the american goverment, trained thousands of Salvadorans, Hondurans and Guatemalans to be monsters during those conflicts. When we toopled their goverments and had them murder, torture and rape their own people. When we ourselves sponsor dictaroships in Africa (Sierra Leon-where we continued to buy dimonds from those butchers who force their own children to dig them out, South Africa (where we supported a fascists regime during the apartheid era), South America (Colombia-where we continued to buy cocaine from ruthless murder Pablo Escobar, Central America-Panama (Noriega, I think is all I should say about this last one). What about our weapons of mass destruction? Should we be the only ones allowed to have them? Perhaps. But what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. Or are we the only ones allowed to develop weapons and use them if other countries don't bow to us and do as we say. So I guess maybe you were the one who missed the part about the american dictators, the american wolf in sheep's clothing. Do a little research before we have tear your comments apart again... Peter New York
CommentsPete, You must have misunderstood. I was talking about the present conflict. We are there to rid Iraq and the world of a proven sadistic murderer who will kill millions of Americans as soon as he has the chance. As a typical liberal you whined about oil and President Bush. Ramble about the present conflict if you'd like. BTW, in the United States we don't have dictators, we elect our President by a majority of electoral votes (I can already hear more typical liberal whining about President Bush stealing the election)
CommentsI see many liberals have answered Saddam's Call: "Iraq's U.N. Mission urged all countries to condemn the war and people around the world to demonstrate against "colonialism, domination and imperialism."
Typical
Comments"our goverment made billions from the sale of heroin in our own country", "american goverment, trained thousands ... to be monsters", "we toopled (sic) their goverments and had them murder, torture and rape their own people", "butchers who force their own children to dig them out". Wow, peter from New York. Your research comes from impartial sources indeed. Did you get a grant from Kim Jong Il or S. Hussein to do that research? It seems your blinders are cutting off what little blood is necessary for the circulation to your brain. Peter from Newark
CommentsHey Peter from Newark...If you think my reasearch is bogus...take a look at the following: I have provided you and everyone else with declassified CIA documents and world reports on the activities I mentioned before by the US goverment. Yes, Central America death squads trained by the US goverment, you kknow there is ever a compiled list complete with pictures and dossiers on the desappeared. Africa, Sierra Leon and the sale of illegal dimonds, Colombia and the CIA, goverment officials and drug lords and off course the Middle East and their little dirty work. There is also a picture of your precious Mr. Rumsfeld, shaking the hand of that hated, evil, dictator, Mr. Hussein himself...So my man, don't knock it until you! take your blinders off......Get it, got it, goooood! http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/latin_america/guatemala.html http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB11/docs/ http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publications/irancontra/irancon.html http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/index.html http://www.namebase.org/books69.html http://www.bullatomsci.org/issues/1993/a93/a93AlbrightHibbs.html http://www.fcnl.org/issues/arm/sup/small_arms-diamonds_backgd.htm http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/sep1998/colo-s02.shtml Peter New York
CommentsIn fact, the US goverment doesn't want to end the war in Iraq. They don't want to end the war on drugs or any other war for that matter. Do you really believe they want to end all wars? If you believe that then you must believe the exterminator really wants to get rid of all your termites, mice and roaches....Wake up! Peter New York
CommentsI keep telling you that this war is not about getting rid of an evil dictator. Here is more declassified evidence that proves what the war is about. I won't say I told you so: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2346716a4560,00.html
Peter, New York
CommentsJust so you guys know, Peter, New York is not me, I am Peter New York....So don't go around thinking that I'm posting messages about Saddam and space technology, because I'm not. I only post facts. Peter New York
CommentsThose UFO facts were as reliable a source as any you've posted. Peter New York
CommentsWill the real Peter stand up, so we may recognize you as the erect Peter.
CommentsThis one has me stumped: Plans by Senate Democratic leaders to scuttle President Bush's tax cuts were blocked by inadvertent help for the president by two of his biggest critics: Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Senate Minority Leader Thomas Daschle wanted to amend the Republican-sponsored budget resolution to reduce Bush's proposed $726 billion tax cut for the next year to $375 billion. Daschle had a good chance of picking up enough Republican defectors to defeat the president, but he did not corral sufficient Democrats. Kennedy and Clinton let it be known that $375 billion was still too much in tax reductions, and that they would vote against it. The amendment was then withdrawn.
CommentsReal Peter from New York, Interesting links and interpretation to support your assertions. The World Socialist Web, Namebase.org (... you were in all likelihood born into the wrong social class...),and FCNL sites leave no doubt about their philosophy. I still prefer the ones about UFOs. No arguments about the abuses in Guatemala, but I doubt you will give links to abuses by rebel and guerilla groups, especially since so many are of the Socialist or Communist persuasion. Care to discuss the humanitarian side of Peru's Shining Path or where they get their support? If you want, you can find whatever you want to support any point of view, no matter how loony it may seem to others. All information must be read with an open mind and a minimum of objectivity:
Yesterday, the Star-Ledger (NJ) headlined: Ground troops on the move in Iraq. You read: Imperialist Yankee dog army uses weapons of mass destruction to rape, pillage, and murder on their way to annex oil fields of peace and freedom loving Iraq to satisfy murdering world domineering ego of evil war criminal George Bush. Peter from Newark PS I see Bush is allied with Martians now, and planning on invading the Venus oil fields. France sides with anybody who does not speak English.
CommentsI forgot to add: I only post facts, I always tell the truth, and I always wash my hands after going to the bathroom. Peter from Newark
CommentsA group of American anti-war demonstrators who came to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers made it across the border today with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot without Iraqi government minders present. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip "had shocked me back to reality." Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head." http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030321-023627-5923r
CommentsPeace demonstrators in France stab 2 Jewish boys By THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF
According to the Jewish Agency, Anti-American demonstrators attacked and wounded two young boys Saturday. The boys were participating in an educational activity of the Hashomer Hatsa'ir youth movement, taking place nearby. The Jewish Agency called on the French government "to assume its responsibility for the security of its Jewish citizens, and to prevent violence against Jews or anti-Semitic acts under the guise of pacifist protest".
CommentsMany anti-war groups are funded by foes of the U.S. government. Not in Our Name is financed by a group that not only supports Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, but once sponsored a group headed by Sami Al-Arian, the Florida professor recently charged with terrorist activities. A.N.S.W.E.R., another prominent coordinating anti-war organization, is a front group for the Workers World Party, a Marxist booster of North Korea's mad dictatorship. Suddenly, reports of protesters' plans to disrupt federal buildings, military compounds, power plants, reservoirs, oil companies, stock exchanges, fall into sinister, political place.
CommentsTo Peter from Newark. I see we have captured each others attention. Good arguments, I must admit, have been made on both our parts. I will concede to that. But really is there any need for name calling? I suppose you "were" born into the right social class with a silver spoon in your mouth and have never had to struggle with racism, discrimination and or oppression, but thats another story all together! Anyway I will be most happy to discuss "Sendero Luminoso's" humanitarian side with you. The fact is, they have no humanitarian side. They are as brutal as they come, and for them I don't have any praise. I don't agree with their methods or their doctrine. However, in light of US goverment involvement with the Peruvian Fujimori/Montesinos dictatorship, I must give you one of my favorite quotes: "the ends justify the means"... Don't get me wrong, I am not and I repeat, I am not, supporting the guerillas of Shining Path, but if you were an oppressed people, what would you do? Here is something to considered when you are ready to enter into discussions about groups like "Sendero Luminoso" Here is an excerpt: "Reluctant as ever to discuss its relationships with foreign services, the CIA has permitted mention of its role only in one sentence of a 1996 report on intelligence reform. The agency declined comment for this article, which is based on interviews with current and former U.S. and Peruvian officials who, for the most part, spoke on the condition that they not be identified. Helping catch Guzman, these sources concurred, was a CIA triumph. But the episode also sheds light on the agency's murky relationship with Montesinos, whose alleged corruption and human rights abuses triggered a political crisis in Peru this year that forced both him and Fujimori from power. Montesinos knew of the CIA's role in Guzman's capture. One former U.S. official said, "It could not have happened without his support." Yet others familiar with the operation said Montesinos was a marginal--or disruptive--factor. He backed a separate, secret Peruvian army intelligence unit tasked with killing the same Shining Path leaders the police were trying to arrest, according to U.S. and Peruvian officials. Publicly, Fujimori praised the CIA-trained police who caught Guzman. Behind the scenes, Montesinos saw them as disloyal and later purged them. Nevertheless, the CIA kept up its ties to Montesinos, whom it regarded as the rising power in the Fujimori government."
If you still prefer the ones about UFO's then I don't think you are ready for a real discussion. Let me know when you can prove a valid point of view without resorting to name calling and idiotic comments about UFO's! The real Peter New York If you wish to call me erect Peter, I don't really care because I am making valid points and I am willing to enter into discussion with anyone in regards to my posts. So if you want to act like children, thats fine with me. Maybe this is the wrong site to be discussing these matters. By the way, I also wash my hands everytime I use the bathroom!
CommentsTo the person who wants to call me erect Peter once I stand up! Please leave your name next time so that I may answer your post properly. And to the fake Peter, "Those UFO facts were as reliable a source as any you've posted" who are you kidding my brother? Where are you doing your reasearch? The Twilight Zone or at the USS Enterprise's video library with Yordi LaForge's help! Give me a break, bro, get real! Peter New York
CommentsBro? I can't believe a liberal such as yourself would stoop to being racially insensitive. I'm sick and tired of you liberal's double standards. I'm a bigger person than you, so I won't race bait. Again, Typical. Peter, New York
CommentsI thought you wanted to discuss relative issues on this site, Peter. I am not being racially insensitive. But when you use your name, which happens to be the same as mine, to post your views and people mistake them for mine, I don't appreciate it. You say you are a bigger person than I am, that may be so! but at least I have a point of view and a desire to voice it. Unlike you, whom hides behind other people's posts, pretending to know what you are talking about....yeah! I say you are a much, much bigger person than me! Peter New York
CommentsIf I were forced to live under the same conditions as the Peruvian people I would probably take up arms as well! Wouldn't you? Read the following and then tell me what you think! http://www.csrp.org/rw/rw1072.htm#1 No wonder you have all kinds of terrorits groups springing up all over the place... Peter New York (erect)
CommentsPeter from New York: The Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA (Long live Marxism-Leninism--Maoism). Now there is an impartial source of information! They are based in Berzerkeley, Republik of Kalifornia. Now, If I were forced to live under the same conditions as the American people in central California, I would probably take up arms as well! Wouldn't you? There is some interesting reading on this site and I would encourage all to go there to understand what we are up against: "Marxist-Leninists must seize hold of the revolutionary possibilities that are developing rapidly and lead the masses in stepping up the revolutionary struggle on all fronts - beginning revolutionary warfare where that is possible, stepping up preparations where the conditions for such revolutionary warfare are not yet ripe. In this way the struggle for communism will advance..." It seems the only bad wars are those waged by non communists, and communist only lead struggles for liberation. The site lauds all communist causes and fondly remembers Mao. Let us not forget the peaceful intentions of Maoist China toward its little brother Tibet, or the benefits of the cultural revolution. Who can forget the wonderful things Mao did for the Chinese people. With all due respect, Peter, I think you are too intelligent to actually believe this crap. If you want to talk about the ills of the American system in particular, or the problems with democracy and the free enterprise system in general, OK. There are possibilities for intelligent discussion there. When you choose to ally yourself with revolutionary communists, you identify yourself with an brutal bunch with a highly polarized view of world events and a selective memory loss, and you lose all credibility. In all honesty, I would still rather read the UFO site than the venomous propaganda crap on their pages. In closing,I will give you this link related to Tibet. It will let us all reminisce of the good old Mao days. I hope you do not consider the Dalai Lama a bourgeois imperialist pig. http://www.tibet.ca/wtnarchive/2000/3/10-2_2.html
the fake Peter from Newark (non erect)
CommentsFor those who like intrigue: http://www.spiritoftruth.org.nz/ksm.htm
CommentsLiberals are protesting in order to help the people who did this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/from_our_own_correspondent/2058253.stm and
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-614607,00.html
CommentsPeter I wanted to avoid interjecting personal bits into this discussion, but I find the statement where you assume that I was "born into the right social class with a silver spoon in your mouth and have never had to struggle ..." is haunting me. I can assure you that everything I own, I earned and worked for. For the record, I did not get to enjoy such luxuries as indoor plumbing until I immigrated to the US as a teenager. Matter of fact, if you would prefer to debate me in my native language, I would be more than happy to oblige. I would suggest for diversity and sensitivity reading: What's so great with America, by Dinesh D'Souza. P Newark
CommentsTo the fake Peter from Newark (non erect): "However, he pinpointed the "most alarming trend" as being the mass influx of Chinese settlers into Tibet" Let me get this straight Peter. So you are saying that because Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Chinese, and everybody else is coming into this country! the influx will be so large that we "americans" will become a minority in our country? Because new religions are being introduced that we "americans" will no longer be able to practice christianity? That because they opened a massage parlor down the street, I have to go and get a massage? Six (6) reported deaths by torture. Come on! I lived in neighborhoods where six (6)every six (6)months, was a small number! "In March 1959, the Dalai Lama escaped from the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, after an unsuccessful revolt against China. In Orphans of the Cold War, author and former CIA operative John Kenneth Knaus Knaus said: "The Tibetans came up with figures (in 1951) for how much money was needed to sustain him and a government (in exile.) In 1959 his flight into exile wasn't voluntary, but we (the CIA) lived up to that commitment." Knaus maintained that the CIA's subsidies to the Dalai Lama lasted until 1974. The Dalai Lama was disguised as one of his own bodyguards. Accompanied by his senior officials, he rode on horseback towards the border with India." "In 1993 then-CIA Director R. James Woolsey told Congress that the files on the agency's activities in Tibet and several other of its covert operations of the Cold War would be opened. But the CIA reneged on this promise, claiming it did not have enough resources. In Fall 1998 the Los Angeles Times reported that recently declassified documents showed that the CIA provided an annual subsidy of $180,000 to the Dalai Lama from the late 1950s through the 1960s. Additionally, the agency shelled out about $1.7 million aper year to subsidize the resistance fighters." Read the rest: http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/jphuck/Book16Ch.7.html On to the next. Liberals are protesting in order to help the people who did this: Whomever you are. I have never said that Saddam's regime has not been a brutal, oppressing, and totalitarian one. I have always been on the side of his removal. But, please let him be removed by his own people and replace with someone who is going to help that region and its population, not by one of "our" puppets, like we've done everywhere else. Yes children have died. Yes it is sickening when a goverment won't allow you to bury your child until the goverment decides that your kids coffin will make an impression on the rest of the world when shown in a parade of coffins. Its a terrible thing. But let me ask you guys this. Does it really matter when they decide to bury the dead children of Iraq? Does it change the total number of dead children resulting from blockades and embargos. Does it really change the number of dead children that are dying because they are starving and or they have no medications to fight off infections or desease. Because they have no clean water, because the electricity has been knocked out and therefore the water purification plans can't work. Hence creating deseases. Talk to me when your guys have something more concrete to go on. By the way Peter, I for one do not belive in religion, that for one is my opinion. Yes I am an athiest. But tell me what do you really think about the Dalai Lama now? Peter New York P.S. Peter, what is your native language. Perhaps if it is Spanish or Italian, I think I can accomodate your request.
CommentsLet's try to elevate (at least the terms) of this debate. Here's an excellent essay by Steven Den Beste. Perhaps it will help each of us understand where the other side is coming from. Stardate 20030324.1432 (Captain's log): Evil times force us to confront evil choices. Many of us find ourselves hoping that really bad things will happen, and it's uncomfortable to realize this. We find ourselves hoping that something bad will happen because we think it's the only way to prevent something even worse from happening later. If honest, that calculation is a correct one and a moral one, but it's still hard to find yourself advocating death and suffering. For instance, I know full well what an awful thing war is, and just how much it can really cost. Yet I have been advocating war in Iraq, and continue to think it's the right thing for this nation to do. It's not that I love war; it's that I am afraid of what will happen to my nation and to the world if we don't do it. In the long run, I think the outcome for everyone, but in particular for my own nation, will be better if we fight this war than if we don't. Yet that means that I'm advocating a course of action where the possibility exists that a lot of my countrymen, and a lot of Iraqis, may die or otherwise suffer. Many who oppose the war are in a similar situation, and if anything it's even more anomalous. They recognize the danger that Arab/Islamic extremism and failure represent to the world, but they fear American power even more. Thus they find themselves hoping that we will suffer a bloody defeat, or a Pyrrhic victory. They hope that as a result of this America will be chastened, humbled, and will cease to embrace an activist and martial foreign policy. They hope that America will embrace self-doubt and moral paralysis and meekly return to its estranged allies and beg forgiveness and submit "multilaterally" to the nascent post-national world governmental structures (such as the ICC), and because of this will cease to be a danger to the world. It's not that these people love Saddam; they don't. It's that they fear America even more. They deeply fear that if the US wins in Iraq, and wins what is perceived to be a fast and easy war there, that Americans will be emboldened and will gain self-confidence and perhaps even become self-righteous, and will eventually plunge the entire world into war. If America is willing to use direct aggressive military power to force a regime change in Iraq, where else will that then happen? And what else can possibly stop the American juggernaut without devastating the entire globe? I don't agree with this point of view, but I can at least understand it. And that's why when I read some anti-war blogs, those who try to deal with the issues seriously and who do not descend to petty ridicule and fashionable cynicism, that their posts regarding the process of the war seem to be deeply conflicted. On one side they fear for the troops and at the same time there almost seems to be a wish that disaster will overtake the troops. For someone in this position, who hates Saddam but fears America more, among the best outcomes is that America wins, but pays such a high price that Americans will not support any future wars. Thus they find themselves simultaneously dreading and hoping that a lot of our soldiers will be killed and wounded. To that end, there seem to be some in the world who are willing to overtly or covertly assist the Iraqis so as to make the war as expensive for us as possible. But remember that the real goal for many is not dead American soldiers, but cowed American voters, and thus they have good reason to try to make things look as bad as they possibly can. For such a person, the absolutely ideal outcome is for America to win, Saddam to be deposed, life in Iraq to improve, overall losses to be low, and for Americans to still think that the cost was too high. Many private individuals hold this point of view. More important is that many government leaders, and many press organizations also do, and they're using their visibility to try to cast war news in harsh terms, because their greatest fear is American confidence and American triumphalism. Their targets for this propaganda (for that's what it is) are not just Americans; they're also feeding this to their own people. For governments who opposed the war, they need the war to be seen as a disaster by their own people, because they fear being repudiated by events. But it's also us that much of this is aimed at. Many have pointed out that the BBC has been taking a particularly harsh tone, for instance. And the IHT reports that the attempts by French television to try to portray the war as a disaster have approached the ludicrous. In general it's been the case that Reuters has been giving a pessimistic slant to its coverage. And in some of the press conferences, with Rumsfeld or Franks, many of the questions have been deeply slanted. Some of this comes from an attitude some have that anything short of perfection is failure. As a practical matter that's absurd; perfection in human affairs doesn't exist. As an engineer I'm fully aware of the fact that we can't even try to shoot for perfection; we try for "good enough" in all things. By the same token, one way of making it seem as if the war is going badly is to try to create an artificially high expectation for the outcome against which reality comes up short. Take, for example, the psyops effort to try to dissuade common Iraqi soldiers and low-level officers from resisting us. Has it worked? If by "worked" you mean that 100.0% of the Iraqi military surrendered at the first opportunity without any shots being fired, then no, it hasn't. But that's the wrong standard. Has it resulted in a significant reduction of the combat power of the Iraqi army? That's the question, and the answer is a resounding "yes". It's important to note that most of the mass Iraqi surrenders in 1991 were front line troops, stationed in Kuwait along the Saudi border. For those men there were only really two choices: surrender to the Americans, or death by American action. Thus vast numbers of them chose surrender. But for a lot of the troops in Iraq itself, there's a third choice: desertion. The soldiers in Kuwait in 1991 couldn't desert because there was nowhere to run (in the desert in a foreign country), but in Iraq soldiers can remove their uniforms and blend into the civilian population. It's more difficult to tally this; it's not as obvious on the evening news. But it's just as good from our point of view; it means they're not fighting us, and that's what we're really after. And while it's true that it isn't universal, it's truly substantial already and likely to become even more significant later. A process of mass desertion becomes self-reinforcing. As many do it, those they leave behind are more likely to follow them later. If we can whittle their force down by 10% through drops of leaflets, that's a major victory. And there's good reason to believe that it has been and will continue to be a lot more successful than that. But you're still going to end up with a core of the unit which doesn't desert, and may even fight. At which point you fight them, and the news broadcasts will be full of pictures of men firing machine guns, and artillery raining down on enemy positions, and it may seem as if resistance is stiff. And indeed it might be; but not as stiff as it would have been if the enemy force hadn't been weakened by having many of their soldiers leave. But as soon as that happens, those with unrealistic expectations, and those who want to deliberately recast the perception of the process, will emphasize the resistance, and especially emphasize the losses that result. For war is dangerous. It isn't possible to be on a battlefield without taking risk. It isn't possible to engage in a firefight without some people dying. And anyone who actually thought we were going to win this war without any combat at all are on drugs. One of the problems with TV coverage is that it lends itself well to inducement of a fallacy known as "misleading vividness". That happened over the weekend, when a few of our soldiers were captured by Iraq. Two HMMVs carrying about 12 people from a support unit were captured by what were probably members of the Special Republican Guard. Some were probably executed; some were taken captive. Film of both the corpses and the prisoners was transmitted to an Arabic news channel, and from there broadcast to the world. Yes, it was horrible. There's no doubt about that. It made me sick to my stomach. I wish it hadn't happened; I feel deeply sorry for relatives in the US who had to see their loved ones interviewed, and even more for those who had to see their loved ones dead. But let's get some perspective here, OK? 12 people out of a force of two hundred thousand made a mistake and got into real trouble. Is this really a disaster which will cause all of the rest of the 199,988 to suddenly give up and retreat? Of course it isn't. Nor is the fact that there have now probably been as many as fifty Americans and Brits killed in combat. That's horrible, but by historical standards it's also extremely low. And the advance we've made is also close to being historical. It isn't a record; the Mongols were able to make sustained advances of 50 miles per day and maintain that rate for weeks. No modern mechanized force has ever come close. But by modern standards, this assault has been breathtakingly successful. For instance, in France in 1944, after the Cobra breakout, the "dash across France" involved units which might move up to ten miles per day, while taking casualties at much higher levels than we're taking now. Some combat in the past has been astoundingly intense with a very high price. Second Marine Division assaulted the atoll of Tarawa, which was defended by 4800 men. The US won but lost 3300 casualties, including 900 dead. (Ever after, it was known as "Bloody Tarawa" among the US Marines.) It was the first major amphibious assault of the war against a prepared position with determined defenders, and much was learned from it. And yet, later island battles were also very expensive. At Iwo, five weeks of fighting cost the US nearly 26,000 casualties, including more than 6800 dead. Which is to say about 188 KIA per day just in that one battle. And that was with an American force of about 110,000 men, fighting against only 22,000 defenders. But they were determined defenders, and nearly all of them died in the battle. Our force involved in this is somewhere around 2-2.5 times that large, and estimates of the total numbers in the Iraqi military range from 300,000 to 500,000, possibly 25 times as many. And yet, in five days of combat we've only had something like 50 dead, and most of those have been due to operational accidents (primarily helicopter crashes in Kuwait) and a couple of extraordinarily unfortunate friendly-fire incidents. It's true that there is an apparent stiffening of Iraqi resistance. That was to be expected, for two reasons. First, we actually did achieve surprise. The decision to start ground operations before the main mass air assault caught nearly everyone by surprise, and when combined with a very surprising surgical bombing mission the first night, it left the Iraqi defensive forces confused and unguided. But surprise wears off; it's not a permanent condition. And now the Iraqis are beginning to get it together and starting to fight. That was pretty much a foregone conclusion. The second point is that it was always expected that resistance would stiffen as we got closer to Baghdad. The forces in the south were among the worst and least dependable Saddam has. He's keeping his best forces for close defense in the Baghdad area, and also hopes to lure us into city fighting in Baghdad itself if he can. So as our forces advance north, it's really not at all surprising that there's more and more combat. And as a result, it's also not a surprise that there are more and more casualties. Every one of those is to be deeply regretted, but it's a price we have chosen to pay. And in fact, the price we've paid so far has been ahistorically light. It hasn't been zero, but it was never possible that it could be zero. But if you're trying to convince Americans and the world that this war is already a failure, then you will try in your news reporting and commentary to linger with horror on all the awful things which have happened. Every time any unit runs into any kind of resistance, you raise questions about whether it will throw off the entire attack. Every time anyone is killed or wounded, you start to ask whether the plan was a failure. And you go into a press conference with some American military official, and ask whether the fact that there's been five whole days of fighting and we haven't won yet means that we're sunk into a quagmire, and the entire war has become a new Viet Nam. Just for historical reference, by this point in the war in 1991, our ground forces in Saudi Arabia had another five weeks to wait before even being given permission to cross the border. And that operation was considered to have been preposterously short for the military objectives it gained. After all, it only took six weeks! If you, as a civilian who is quite naturally worried about the war, find yourself obsessing on individual events and begin to wonder if we're facing imminent disaster, then what you need to do is to take a deep breath, turn off the damned TV, and look at the overall progress of the war. If some reporter talks about how there's serious resistance in some particular village and combat taking place, ignore the fact that the reporter tries to cast it as being a disaster and instead consider the fact that it means the troops had to advance a long way to even be in that particular place to even meet that resistance. And then look at what other units, elsewhere, are doing. Look at the big picture. It isn't going perfectly for us, but it's going extremely badly for Saddam. When news reports talk about the trouble one unit is having capturing certain bridges in An Nasiriyah, try to remember that other news reports say that 3rd Division bypassed that town entirely, put a pontoon bridge across the Euphrates river, and is well past that point and on its way to Baghdad. Ralph Peters is easily the most knowledgeable commentator on war in general and this war in particular that I've seen. He's been writing editorials for the NYPost, and his most recent one does a good job of dispelling the doomsayers. Things are not going perfectly, but they're going very, very well. That doesn't prove that they'll continue to go well, but his point is correct that many out there writing about the war, and commenting about it, are distorting the view they present to a degree which approaches an outright lie. Yes, there's been resistance. There's been combat. And in particular, there have been atrocities and war crimes, and most of those have been committed by the Fidayeen, which is to say the Special Republican Guard. This force of 12,000 to 15,000 are the best Iraq has, and the ones most likely to resist to the end. One reason for that is that a lot of them stand to be murdered after the war by other Iraqis, so they've got little to lose. It was probably them that captured the people from the 507th Maintenance Company. They're probably the ones who have been responsible for some of the feigned surrenders, and who have in some cases been operating in plain clothes and trying to ambush our troops. They're not trying to intimidate us. They're trying to infuriate us. If they can make it seem as if trying to take prisoners is dangerous, then they hope we'll stop doing so. If they make it seem to us as if we can't trust civilians, we may be more likely to start slaughtering civilians. When they torture and execute our POWs, they hope to enrage our troops so that they'll go on a rampage. Our political goal in the war has been to try to make it clear to the mass of the Iraqi people that we are only fighting the leaders and the core of the army. The Fidayeen want to broaden the war to include all of Iraq, so that resistance will be stiffened. If we stop taking prisoners, or if we start mistreating them, then fewer will be inclined to surrender, to Saddam's benefit later. The right thing to do in response to Fidayeen atrocities is to not be swayed by them, especially not with mass retaliation. Get angry? Yes. Mourn the victims? Of course. But don't change course. We're on the right course. That's what they're trying to change. And even though there are a lot of people out there who would really, really love to convince you that things are going badly, it isn't true. Things could be better; I'm first in line to say that I wish we could fight this war without losing anyone. But things could be a whole lot worse. That's no comfort for the families who have lost sons and daughters already, but it's a blessing that so few face that deep tragedy. And disabuse yourself of the idea that it's not going to get worse. The hardest fighting remains ahead of us. It always has. The territory we've moved through so far was always expected to be the least contested. More of our people will be killed or wounded. There will be more crying families here at home. (And I'll be crying, too.) Keep in mind that they're all volunteers. That doesn't mean we can feel free to waste them; and we aren't. But we, the citizens at home, have the ability to waste their sacrifice if we lose heart and give up. If some of them must die, we owe it to them to make sure they don't die uselessly. This is not Viet Nam, and we are not sunk in a quagmire. But we at home can lose what our soldiers in Iraq are winning, if we let ourselves be convinced that things are going worse than they really are. So read about "misleading vividness". Read Peters. Then turn off the damned television.
CommentsThe real Peter said, "But, please let him be removed by his own people and replace with someone who is going to help that region and its population" What have you been smoking? If anyone is even suspected of thinking negative thoughts about Saddam, he and his family are tortured and killed, then anyone who knows him, just for good measure. That doesn't encourage people to stand up. they need our help, and baby - they are getting it!
CommentsSome French are concerned that a U.S.-led administration in Iraq will favor companies from the United States and other pro-war countries while penalizing companies from France and other war opponents. See: After the war, gas in the US should be 25 cents a gallon and in France it should be $10 a gallon.
CommentsPeter NY YOur attack on the Dalai Lama sidesteps the problem you brought up. Are you defending China's invasion of Tibet. Please remember that was brought up because your source was the Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Please defend the sources you have chosen to use. If you must compare the voluntary (I repeat:voluntary), legal and illegal immigration into this country with the influx of citizens into a conquered (I repeat: conquered) country, I can see that I must again post this quote from your enlightened site: "Marxist-Leninists must seize hold of the revolutionary possibilities that are developing rapidly and lead the masses in stepping up the revolutionary struggle on all fronts - beginning revolutionary warfare where that is possible, stepping up preparations where the conditions for such revolutionary warfare are not yet ripe. In this way the struggle for communism will advance..."
CommentsAmericans flipping channels Sunday night between war coverage and the Oscars were treated to a rare instance of defining clarity. While Hollywood displayed its paler feathers on ABC, a series of POWs from the first Gulf War appeared on the all-news channels to tell of their experiences while captives of the Iraqi military in 1991. Their testimonials were mesmerizing and cast a stark light on the disconnect between much of Hollywood and the rest of us. The irony of watching people accepting awards for acting, make-up and sound effects while men a few remote clicks away were recounting tortures endured at the hands of our current enemies was nearly numbing. I kept thinking that these men were the ones who should be parading across a stage to accept awards amid the thunderous applause of an adoring public. Surely, the actors in their studied black and lesser adornments were embarrassed to display themselves on such a night. Maybe some were. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/kathleenparker/kp20030326.shtml
CommentsTo the woman, who asked me what have I been smoking? Those people in the Arab states don't want our help otherwise there would have been uprisings long before we intervened. When there is a will there is a way, and if those people really wanted to get rid of Saddam, believe me they would have done it already on their own. They are "not" getting our help, "baby", we are taking over the country! Peter New York To the other Peter in NY, I am not and have never defended the invasion of Tibet by the Chinese. No country should be invaded by another because it is percieved as the weaker of the two. But Peter, we have been doing it since this nation was born. Examples: Puerto Rico, The Dominican Republic, Haiti, The US Virgin Islands, Vietnam, Korea, Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador, Honduras, Argentina, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Colombia, and many, many others. Most recently Venezuela, do you really think we have nothing to do with whats going on there? The newest conquest: Iraq. If its ok for the US to do it, why isn't ok for other countries to do the same. Because you said so? Give me a break. We always cast other countries as the invadors, the agressors. What about us. Show me one example where we have actually bettered the living conditions of the population once we took over, changed a regime and implemented a new so-called "democratic" goverment. Please show me! P.S. You said, I attacked the Dalai Lama. You know, if you guys were to see through this vale that this religious leaders are putting over your eyes these discussions would be much simpler. How many wars have been fought in the name of "God", too many to count. If all these guys want is peace and equality for everyone, why are they to be considered superior to everyone else. Is it because of divinity? I seriously doubt it. These guys are smarter than you think. Religion is a business, a way to get more money, and a way to get other people who are faithful to do what you want them to do. So don't tell me I attacked his "highness" because I didn't. All I pointed out was that he was on the US goverment's payroll while in exile. Why are you and I, the tax payers, paying him? I don't know. Maybe because "God" wants us to.... Peter New York
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CommentsIcant beleive what I am reading. Attacking the Dalai Lama to excuse China invading Tibet. SHAME!SHAME!SHAME!. Whose side are you on? We fight for peace and you spout that! I too am an atheist but i wont take up chinese comunism for a religion. Dot
CommentsHey Dot, welcome to our discussion and thank you for taking the time to add to it. Please don't misunderstand, I am in no way defending China's invasion of Tibet. I am dead set agaisnt it. What I am trying to say is that the US invades other countries, out in the open like we are doing in Iraq, or covertley, like we've done everywhere else. Some people here seem want to look the other way when the US does it but refuse to do the same when another country, such as China, does it. Why is that? I have always said, "what is good for the goose is good for the gander"... Peter New York P.S. This idea the US has created as the defender of human rights and the world's special police is nothing more than a smoke screen for its true purpose... indirect total control! We won't directly control the rest of the world, but if other countries do not go along with our policies, than they simply become our enemies. No more money, no more arms, no more support, no more billions of yours and my hard earn tax dollars! In other words, you are either with us or against us! That's what this is about. Haven't you heard of economic diplomacy? Its the wave of the future in politics.
CommentsThank you for fighting for the right cause. True Americans are proud of President Chirac. The Nation of Iraq has chosen it's leaders and the world should respect that decision. Who cares if millions die at the hand of Saddam? The bigger murderer is Bush.
CommentsRacist violence explodes in France in 2002 By The Associated Press PARIS - Violent racist attacks quadrupled in France in 2002 to the highest level in a decade, and more than half of the assaults were aimed at Jews, a national report said Thursday. Assailants carried out 313 acts of racist violence last year, compared to 71 in 2001, according to a report by the National Consulting Committee on Human Rights. The independent group said 193 of those attacks were against Jews, noting a "real explosion" in anti-Semitic violence. Last year, the group reported 32 acts of anti-Jewish violence. The committee said increased anti-Semitic attacks came against a backdrop of fighting between Israel and the Palestinians, and added that many of the attackers came from rough neighborhoods on the outskirts of France's cities. In the last two years, France has suffered a wave of violence against Jewish schools, temples and cemeteries that coincided with new fighting in the Middle East. The violence, which peaked a year ago when a Marseille synagogue was burned to the ground, has markedly decreased. But Muslim-Jewish relations remain tense. France has the largest Jewish community in western Europe and one of the continent's biggest Muslim populations. France's large North African community was also targeted in racist violence. Of 47 attacks against them, 25 of those were attributed to the extreme-right. One person of North African origin was killed - the only death mentioned in the report. The Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks stirred anti-Muslim sentiment, the report said. Violence by France's far-right groups dropped in 2002. Nine percent of the reported attacks were blamed on the far right, compared to 14 percent in 2001, the report said. The group also tallied 992 nonviolent but racist acts - such as threats or graffiti - in 2002, compared to 350 in 2001.
CommentsShame on The Bushs
CommentsPeter, I prefer to stay in the background, but when you not only did not denounce China's invasion of Tibet, but went on to paint the Dalai Lama as a puppet of the CIA it was too much for me to stay in lurk mode. SHAME ON YOU! The end does not justify the means. If you use their methods, you become one of THEM. I regard Ghandi, Martin Luther King and the Dalai Lama as Men of Peace, Mao Dzedong belongs NOWHERE near them. I want to speak out against all wars, and making excuses for any of them cheapens our movement. I will now go back to lurk mode. Dot
CommentsGeorge Will March 27, 2003 Pat Moynihan, R.I.P.
WASHINGTON--Many of America's largest public careers have been those of presidents. Many, but by no means all. Chief Justice John Marshall was more consequential than all but two presidents--Washington and Lincoln. Among 20th- century public servants, Gen. George Marshall--whose many achievements included discerning the talents of a Col. Eisenhower--may have been second in importance only to Franklin Roosevelt. And no 20th-century public career was as many-faceted, and involved so much prescience about as many matters, as that of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who died Wednesday at 76.
He was born in Tulsa but spent his formative years on Manhattan's Lower East Side, from which he rose to Harvard's faculty and the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford, serving as, among other things, ambassador to India and the U.S. representative at the United Nations. Then four Senate terms. Along the way he wrote more books than some of his colleagues read, and became something that, like Atlantis, is rumored to have once existed but has not recently been seen--the Democratic Party's mind. His was the most penetrating political intellect to come from New York since Alexander Hamilton, who, like Moynihan, saw over the horizon of his time, anticipating the evolving possibilities and problems of a consolidated, urbanized, industrial nation. A liberal who did not flinch from the label, he reminded conservatives that the Constitution's framers ``had more thoughts about power than merely its limitation.'' But he was a liberal dismayed by what he called ``the leakage of reality from American life.'' When in 1994 the Senate debated an education bill, Moynihan compared the legislation's two quantifiable goals--a high school graduation rate of ``at least 90 percent'' by 2000, and American students ``first in the world in mathematics and science''--to Soviet grain production quotas. The Senate's Sisyphus, Moynihan was forever pushing uphill a boulder of inconvenient data. A social scientist trained to distinguish correlation from causation, and a wit, Moynihan puckishly said that a crucial determinant of the quality of American schools is proximity to the Canadian border. The barb in his jest was this: High cognitive outputs correlate not with high per-pupil expenditures but with a high percentage of two-parent families. For that, there was the rough geographical correlation that caused Moynihan to suggest that states trying to improve their students' test scores should move closer to Canada. For calling attention, four decades ago, to the crisis of the African-American family--26 percent of children were being born out of wedlock--he was denounced as a racist by lesser liberals. Today the percentage among all Americans is 33, among African-Americans 69, and family disintegration, meaning absent fathers, is recognized as the most powerful predictor of most social pathologies. At the U.N. he witnessed that institution's inanity (as in its debate about the threat to peace posed by U.S. forces in the Virgin Islands, at that time 14 Coast Guardsmen, one shotgun, one pistol) and its viciousness (the resolution condemning Zionism as racism). Striving to move America ``from apology to opposition,'' he faulted U.S. foreign policy elites as ``decent people, utterly unprepared for their work.'' Their ``common denominator, apart from an incapacity to deal with ideas, was a fear of making a scene, a form of good manners that is a kind of substitute for ideas.'' Except they did have one idea, that ``the behavior of other nations, especially the developing nations, was fundamentally a reaction to the far worse behavior of the United States.'' Moynihan carried Woodrow Wilson's faith in international law, but he had what Wilson lacked--an understanding that ethnicity makes the world go 'round. And bleed. The persistence of this premodern sensibility defeats what Moynihan called ``the liberal expectancy.'' He meant the expectation that the world would become tranquil as ethnicity and religion became fading residues of mankind's infancy. Moynihan's Senate campaigns were managed by as tough-minded and savvy a pol as New York's rough-and-tumble democracy has ever produced, a person who also is a distinguished archeologist--his wife Elizabeth. In his first campaign, in 1976, Moynihan's opponent was the incumbent , James Buckley, who playfully referred to ``Professor Moynihan'' from Harvard. Moynihan exclaimed with mock indignation, ``The mudslinging has begun!'' His last home was an apartment on Washington's Pennsylvania Avenue. That ``Avenue of Presidents" was transformed from tattiness to majesty and vibrancy by three decades of his deep reflection about, and persistent insistence on, proper architectural expressions of the Republic's spiritedness and reasonableness, virtues made wonderfully vivid in the life of Daniel Patrick Moynihan. George Will
CommentsStrange... isn't it? The topics of debate in the 2000 presidential election were social security, public education and medicare. Today we are arguing about the cost of the war. The strange thing is that we have dumped huge sums of money into those three programs and our President has written into law spending increase for all three issues. All three issues are big government programs that judging by the rhetoric of the 2000 election debate are three big government failures. Stranger still, you can bet that all three will be issues in the 2004 election. Why? Because these programs are still failing. Money isn't the answer to these problems. Change is. When the President wanted to change things in Washington, he was attacked. Now that he wanted to spend money to save the lives of our troops, he is attacked again by the same people. Give this guy a break. It was not his fault he woke up one Tuesday morning and by noon 3000 Americans were murdered. He has tried to put into motion many changes that hopefully will prevent another tradegy like that, and at every turn he is attacked by a hostile party and a hostile media. Every suggestion or idea he attempts is ravaged by these people. Yet these same people have presented NO solutions themselves. When he wants to spend, they say its too much. When he wants change, they want to spend. They support the troops now, but not the President. They support the First Amendment, but not the Second Amendment. Strange?
CommentsTrue. More folks need to support President Bush and this Nation and the attempt it is making at security, and stop using the troops as political cover. I have made this statement before and I'll make it now, the first Democratic presidential contestant to publicly ally himself with President Bush by name, and not attack the President on every social issue outside of national security will be the shoe-in for the nomination. The public knows Bush is a good guy, and the first Democratic hopeful that allies himself with Bush to take on the other nominees will have an easy ride to the nomination. Then he can point out his differences with the president. I thought Joe Leiberman might be that guy, but he hasn't been thus far. Maybe Al Sharpton will! :)
CommentsA Saga of Jan Hatto; "Paper Pale"... Henry Rasmussen henry_rasmussen@yahoo.com ** This story, "Paper pale" includes the real-life effects /observations of the researcher "Free Speech Fighter" Jan HATTO, who wished to use his free speech-rights, ground princips by the human rights institutions and their qualified acts' paragraphs according to the constitutional rules and the international conventions, ratificed by SvekJa Kingdom, also to live quite like an equal human in this oligarchical "merry-go-round", but... ... ... ** PAPER PALE ** - Thinking aloud! - Not allowed! - ?! ** - It's me, who witnessed that this man, Jan Hatto invested to his invention and patent everything he had, earned and saved during ten years. The invention was copied, the patent infringed. Hatto took case to a court. The court judges the patent linguistically unclear, nevertheless it is not unclear, Hatto's invention worthless nevertheless it is on sale probably everywhere in world. An example of the invention a carrying device left to the court by Hatoo was exchanged in the court to another device which has shorter straps that Hatto can not show any more how it functions according to his patent. Court of appeal ratified only the judgment. - I parliament building against corruption and the way inventors are handled in SvekJa Kingdom. Society exploits their inventions and legacy with a ferocious thirst. Individuals are met with scorn. Patent rights are withdrawn by fraud, extortion or as in Hatto's case by a judicial injustice. About 100 meters from the place Hatto is sitting Swedish- american joint-venture Motorola AB sells carrying holders for cellular phones constructed according to JH's patent. Other well-known names, as infringers are The Stadium, Salomon, Peak Performance, Fjällräven JC. - I must remark that this man, Hatto fell seriously ill after 61 days of hungerstreik and ended his hungerstreik, will continue demonstrate on the same place. - I wish add any details that this man, Jan Hatto wrote in November 2000; A carrying device for a bag was a part of a large invention. First prototype was stolen and I was forced to apply hastily a patent. I lived in a subterranean room as a lodger, because of low rent and I need to save. Everything I could save, loan and work together were spent on all sorts of patent expenses. I worked overtime, the time left, sewed I bags and contacted companies which could be interested of my invention. Most of them did not care even answer. I called up ten times before I got a chance to speak with some chief. My unlucky invention moved unfounded high in internal hierarchy, finally some chief shouted into telephone, this is not an invention at all, it is impossible to get a patent for this, no one needs such kind of bag, no one will buy this, no one will go around with this. I wrote up all comments and did not need to call up anyone any more, because I could not hear anything I had not heared before. Later was revealed two companies rejected the invention while they produced it already, an imp cut my prototype to pieces before sent it back. It was once a time at the spring of 1998 I walked deep in my thought and stood suddenly before a show-window and was near to fall to pavement. A dummy stand on the show-window and on the dummy hung my patented device. Which no one would need. Now was it a worlds novelty from USA. I had it hard to reach my home in this day, I was extremely destressed and got heavy pain in my stomach. A doctor was suprised why I had come and said: "It is anything strange with it someone has a pain in the back, another one in the head, third in the stomach (She was already the second physician refusing help me). Without medical treatment, without sickness benefit, with recurring pain I wait only to die. Several months later was found that I had got a gastric ulcer. The spring 1999 neared and I swallowed medicine and discovered my "never-will-be-used" invention in every well-known shop. As a final cut started a multinational concern to market his cellular phones together with my invention. The invention looks like may- be simple but is based on a sophisticated technology. Swedish patent 503 364 was grantedÿ in 1996, European patent 0630 196 in 1998, after a unjustified long time. The application in USA turned to a superquarrel without any patent granted after 8 years "examination". Certain nations seem to manage protect their inventors and not enough, even fight others. Cases in court are going already one year without any main proceedings in sight, nevertheless there are not any differences. Multinational concerns (case;company;chief/ T13826-99, Vaude Sport GmbH, Albrecht von Dewitz; T6858-00 Motorola Inc, Chris Kaven; T12775-00, Peak Performance, David Ottoson) spare no resources to break me, paying to anyone anything, employing nations leading specialist in patentprocessright doctor Bertil Grennberg. Doctor Bertil Grennberg ramble and says I can never win the case. Doctor has not found anything similar, He shows in court an ordinary rucksack and claims that I have not invented anything.An inventor can be hated as much as could nevertheless one must follow the rules. - I would like to add any details that this man, Hatto wrote in October 2001: The letter above was written a year ago to deputies of Swedish Parliament. What has happened during a year. Shortly after the letter a main proceeding was appointed to 25 January in this year. I could present nearly half of my claim, when I was abrupted, refused to continue and contradict the counterpart. The chairman of the court chief judge Rolf Nöteberg interrupted me every time with words: "We have heard it already", without even to listen what I wanted to say. In the judgement stood the invention is worthless, nevertheless it is on sale over the world and the patent linguistically unclear. Unclear was just this claim in the patent, which the infringer had copied word for word. The actual part in the patent is not linguistically unclear. The court stated without evidence the invention has existed before (A jury is not used in Swedish court). The patentoffices of Europa, USA, Canada and even Swedish patentoffice have found the invention totally new and not existed anywhere in any form before, only the court of Stockholm finding the invention not new without presenting any evidence. A new culmination occured in my bag- and patentadventure on 26 March during so called oral hearings. I started to put on the infringements bag, but could not do it, could not get the bag around my body any more. Finally I did it any how, but it was impossible to adjust the bag accordingly the patent, the straps were too short. It took time before I understood what had happened. The bag I had given to the court a half year ago, had been exchanged for another similar one, with shorter straps, the elastic section reduced to a small piece. The price label with courtstamp was removed and set back with a safety pin and a worn ribbon. The name of the company accomplished it is "Peak Performance" and not anything other. I started complain, but nobody was listening to me as I had moved my mouth without words. I reported it finally to the police. I have not heard of it after that. When I was away from my home, somebody had been in my apartment. On September 4, 7.30 a.m. at least two persons tried to intrude into my apartment. They rang. When I was spying out through my dooreye, they hid, one laid on the all four, understood I was suspicious, they fled in panic. The only support came from the patent office. Ulf Jansson wrote my linguistically "unclear claim" was not unclear and in force according to the law. On 11 September (A bg day in all other Jews, too... The Jews provoced whole wolrd by a massacre provocation on smae day, 11 September... accidental, that the Jews love this date??? OK! Accidental, we believe in SwedoZionist Judges, too!) a main proceeding took place in Court of Appeal "Svea Hovrätt". In the judgment stood only two sentences (in a grammatical sense) the previous judgement would be ratified because invention solves another problem. The defendant had already admitted, the invention the solves same problem. (In fact the invention solves same the problem) and it was a civil case. The statement of patent office was never read by Court of Appeal. The cases lasted two years can be referred very shortly: There at least two different claims and figures in the patentdocument, they are specifying two different embodiments of the same invention. The court is reading only this embodiment which is different, the word for word copied one is ignored totally. When I intended to take other infringers in court was my right to claim withdrawn (T6953-6958 -01), nevertheless I had done it against previous already two years. ** - Well, I would like to add any details including that this man, J Hatto wrote in November 2001: I have been criticized for to invent things to attract attention. I want to complete my bag- patentadventure only with one detail. The defendant wrote in his answer that the elastic part of the belt of the bag is only 9 cm long, actually it was even longer, the "false" bag has hardly 6 cm long elastic. Some days after 26 Mars, went I to the Court "Stockholm Tingsrätt" and measured all the straps and belts by the bag, wrote up all the lengthes and give in the court. I had no chance to falsify, everyone could see with their own eyes, if I had written up wrong measures. I reported the case even to the police and demanded the police to confiscate the "false" bag, as an evidence for an eventual criminal case. The police could not confiscate it. The police investigator explained that it was responsed in the Court the departments chief Rolf Nöteberg had taken an official journey with the requested bag. I do not know, when or ever returned chief judge from his official journey, one of his colleagues took his chiefspost. The bag for proof in the main proceeding on 1 November looked like homesewn and in any way was not the bag I had given in the court. I can not confirm was this the same bag the chief judge had taken an official journey with or soon a third? After a short conversation with a Supreme Court judge I understood their judgment would include only one sentence (In a grammatical sense). Supreme Court in SvekJa Kingdom had not had any infringments cases since 1965. The law-wises had already turned to riches through my misery. The only thing left was toÿ efface traces, to hush up, to tidy up as it lookes in Swedish TV. A common man would be annihilate behind the scenes, his life and future would be sacrified, to grand a chance for powerfulls and bigs stay flawless. I signed ready a poster: "Hungerstreik, because judicial injustice, the materials for a proof disappeared from the court, court refuses to read a right granted of an authority" and sat before the building of Swedish Parliament on October 11. The first days were a real torture. Stairway was hard, cold and wet, I was dizzy all the time, every minute felt like a quarter. The next day came a man to me and said, they who killed jews together with Germans, have not any earthly chance now. An old woman gave dextrosepills. The pills made my head clear, another by-passer gave a very good pad to sit on, the organism got used to starving. All the time people were coming to me telling their own stories. I hear one horrible history after another, The judical system seems to be in a total disorder in this land. Many were giving their support and showing out their sympathy. One man started to cry, when he saw me, opened his wallet and handed over me a bundle of banknotes. A female deputy came to me, having a lump in her throat and said that SvekJa Kingdom "...is not a state built on the law, who has much money can buy both lawers and courts judgements up to the highest level, common people stare only, pass by and do not understand anything". Another deputy found me a lawer who advised me and read my documents, but expressed a desire to have been never mentioned. An official in Swedish Patent Office advised to try find a lawer from other land for example from Finlandia. Other by-passers laughed at me, coming again after some hours, wondered if I have sat all the time "I have sat herealready 33 days", they were laughing loud, study my poster and say it is impossible. My hungerstrike, my suffering have turned to unreal likewise my invention and my cases. I do not know who has destroyed a mans mind so completely in this land. People neither believe nor understand they are seeing with their own eyes. In same time about 100 meters from the place (Galleria, Expert) I am sitting, Swedish -american joint -venture Motorola AB sells all these days small rucksacks with holders for cellula phones constructed according to my patent, intentionally to get rid of me and my patent. The next part will be written in February or March in this year. Now I have been exposed to a complete persecution, even my sickness benefit was withdrawn, I am sick with a work-injury longer than a year.", he explain about this strange official mouse-trap. ** - Good morning, Sir!... - ...morning!.. - Dagens Nyheter's redaction opened earlier today?! - Well, we get a letter and any fotos on August 6, 2002. - What about a letter? Interesting? - Very interesting... This is the second time a member of Center Party defends a rebel, demonstrant... - ...the name of MP? - He is Björn Bergérus, fotgraphed the demonstrant-anarchist and wrote; " Uppfinnare/egenföretagare Jan Hatto, hungerstrejkande på ledamotshusets trappa, Mynt Square, Stockholm ."Innovatör år 2002"Bilder till utsänd artikel "Sverige ídéplundras på miljarder" ... and Björn took a foto, attached the letter... He believes in that D. N. redacteur should pay attention this tragedie... - I can go there for interview, but what is differnce with this action? - ...our lobbies registrated him as dangerous anti-Zionist, anti-Imperialist revolutionary... created many many... - Don't make me laugh! I know Hatto families who mostly originated central European Gypsies, famous as anarchist showmen all over the world ... But Sir, I wonder who was the first one in Center Party cooperated with rebels?... You pointed that it is second scandal? - Ye'!... Hasse was been the first in the Centers... - Hasse Alfredson? - No! No! No!... Lindqvist!.. Hans Lindqvist was the Coordinator of TEAM since March 2000, you know... But his carrier is wonderful, unfortunately!... Law degree from Uppsala University and lic.jur in Geneva in 1972. Has been working as a judge and lawyer. Chairman of the network Centre "No to EU." ; a kind of rebel actions against our friends, understand... This Hasse sent the fotos from Syria- Bekaa valley, when he visited the revolutionary anti-Imperialist Kurds.... what is the name the bigger anarchist, who arrested by our boys and transferred from Kenya to the USraeli Turkish army collaboration area? - Abdul Öcalan?! - Yes, it's!....armed version of all these showmen!... - I remember better now... Ye', I saw such material in archive, too... This is not the second wrong nor last shoiw by Center!... I had many proof in archive about... - ...don't warry!... Chief said such material must be in secure places... in archive, too! Special places... Yes, we didn't publish Hasse rebel and Öcalan's friendly fotos until now... never mind! I reserv such letters and fotos there, in archive, by other anarchists... for good days! Maybe... - Wait!... I want to see the last one foto of this new actor... Bergérius!... Ahha, he prepare blood for next elections, next month!... But what wrote he .. ...over line? - "Protesterar p.g.a. rättsövergrepp! Info/material till pressen, Björn Bergérus... Berg's Fox, know better that we have elections in next month... Innovatör, he wrote!... The Kurdish people was mass-innovator, hoh hoh houuu!.. - Okay!... I am going now to the "press cemetery", pardon; "archive"! - Do it, father! - Father?! - Godfather! - No, Per Ahlin, dear! My second name is not Ahlmark nor Abramovicz! - ?! ** - Jan, dear friend; you are a symbol for resistance, this is wonderful. You choose to struggle for your speech and thoughts but it's dangerous!. - I am aware what kind of dangers in SvekJa Kingdom grown around us!.. - What should you do if the authorities and the lobbies handle you like Rami! - Rami? ...been attacked again? - Unfortunately!... Yes, Ahmed Rami has been attacked again on 7th September 2002 . Both the bulldogs and lapdogs proceeded to ransack Ahmed Rami's working-house and seizeall of his working ... - Strike!... Everywhere strike! I recommed him to come to paröliament house, strike together... If been arrested so we can continue stríke in the cell! ** - I don't understand, why strikes this man? He can sit at home and call to may answeringmachine so we sholuld be inform on thsi case... - "The mind is like a parachute - it only works if it's open." - You mean... - ...like Frank Zappa! - ...maybe he too loaned the words from Sir James Dewar? - ?! ** - I wonder, what goes strange by Swedish juridical instruments... How can I say?! It is very strange!... You now, if you saw... - How? Do you explain? What is concrete that you remember? - Yes, I remember that David Janzon, a co-worker of Radio Islam, was sentenced to 4 months' imprisonment in October 1992, for the station's agitation "against an ethnic group" . Is provocators of Capitalist Fascist lobbies are really a ethnical group?! - There is so specially groups? Okay, Jews!... It's the overclass group, nobody can imitate such shurks... - But when you been oppressed so your accusation can only be refuseed... The shurks are the masters 'cause they experinced a lot of cruel methodes since many years... You can only suffer like many freedom fighters... - Concret cases? - Very much!... The judges of system who play dirty rolls... It is extra incredible on Swedish justice-scenes that many foolish judges been corrupted by Jewish authorities and they play extra horrible rolls as pycho-proff doctor magister at policlinics... I can not meet all the judges nor observate all the cases but I met many high-staff at Golf Club Tenerrife, they explained... Shameful!... I can not explain here what they say on the corrpted colleges, so awfully shameful... ... Court material look likes simetrical sences, reasons are too similarly... Many papers of court been published by the Bonniers, Nordstedt... Same mechanism poublish as basic Zionist propagand material, too... - EU-membership... After 1995 impressed it by the democratical authorities of other countries? - Unfortunately, it's in all frauds, much more dirty now... If any true jurist goes to United Nations related commissions or the independent justice authorities, so we shall most interesting scandals... - Which kind of scandals? - For instance Osmo Vallo-case... Märta Pettersson-case... Dagmar Hagelin's relatives' demands... much more... Osmo Vallo's relative are the victims, too... Many freedom fighter forced to be jobless and living under minimal standards... Concret case is Stefan Dimiter Tcholakov who labelled as "laborious" and Ahmed Rami, 'cause of criticized the thieves by the Capitalist Jewish lobbies... Laponians who fight for own mark and minority rights, therefore prisoned their representative character Olof T. Johansson, the true Socialists like Bengt Frejd, Sara Lidman, Staffan Ehnebom, so-called the "Free Speech Fighters", anti-Capitalist demonstrant like Jan Hatto, Sten Arne-Zerpe, Dietlieb Felderer, movements who struggle against the weapon-handlers like Henrik Westander (before professur-chair gift) and by his side likely flexible Calle Höglund, anti-Imperialists Hannes Westberg, Herman Schmid, journalists Staffan Beckman, Stefan Hjertén, free-mind intellectuals like Rainer Holm, Linus Brohult, honoured priest K-G Hammar and hundreds of the anti-Imperialists who been registrated by the lobbies... - What is common with them? - Also! When a Fascist accuse them so judges punish the reviewers, immediately... But when the oppressed people leave any accusation acceptance, can easily be refuseed ... The requests of them almost been absolutely refuseed... - Why the DN, Expressen and other big paper awoid of to publich these true stories... They awoid of to show the real discrimination?! - Yes, it's!.. Because every big shurk drives by the big lobbies in this big SvekJa zionized Kingdom... - ?! - How can we could informed and know the truth!?... - I don't reply it in two minutes?! - Well!... I iunderstand better... It's a modernised version of enormous hypocrisy... And I understand why the world couldn't react when Jews slaughted people in Sabra, Shatila, Jenin... Everybody watched on tv meanwhile druck Coca-Cola, chips, bonbons... - Like the film-druged idiots?.. - No, Sir!... We have incredible reactions and collaborated feelings too, remember, we all cried when we watched on the Swindler's list, whole lies master-piece on scenes... - Shame on double-moral masters!.. Where are the all good peoples now?! - No way to Pessimism, please!.. Well, I see a positive case here on the Swedish DN, Expressen; Maximum sentence for the desecration of cemeteries - an outrage which traditionally targeted Jewish cemeteries - was raised from 6 months' imprisonment to 2 years. Yes, the prisonment period raised in 1993, Spring. Then... - It should not calls for case; it's provocation... There is no any single case in SvekJa, means nobody sentenced, nobody improsined for desecrations.. - Maximum sentece will be 2 years! Isn't good? - I want not talk on the sentences good or not good... But I'm coming from Skaane and I witnessed who targeted the cemeteries... - Who? - Jews!... I saw them... They were there and porovoced very succesful so they manipulated sitation... Therefore there is no prisoner after this pharagraph ' cause they aimed change the rules... - I remember a similarly case, my mother witnessed and told us about the foxy Jews who played theatre at the street on 30 November in Germania... It was before WW III, Jewish fanatics crashed own glass and won enormous generous compensation by the reasurance firms... But their media manipulated the world by the help of american Imperialism so all the analphabets crying on every 30 September worldwide, every year like a crying festival, meantime the Zionist boss' laughing behind the windows... ** - What are you thinking about this discussion? - We must know that our weakness is Imperialism's strength, I understand here again... - I agree with you, Comrade Jonas Hållén! - You are welcome, Comrade Lars Törnman! ** - I think, democracy should work better!.. Criminals and collaborators should be arrested! - Should we arrest the criminals?!. Don't make me laugh! - Well, I see the double roles and false rules of the juridical instruments... What a shame we been forced to label it "democracy"... How thus majority of people, thus living creators, stinky mass could be so incredible nonsense blind meanwhile all the enormous fraudulent process?!.. Unbelieveable!... This is a glaring injustice!.. I wonder, what goes wrong by the juridical instruments... How can I say?! It is very strange!... You now, if you see all these incredible cases, nonsense attitudes... - How? Do you explain? What is concrete that you remember? - Yes, I remember that David Janzon, a redactional worker of Radio Islam, was sentenced to 4 months' imprisonment in October 1992, for the station's agitation "against an ethnic group". Are the provocators of Capitalist Fascist lobbies are really a ethnical group?! - There is so specially groups? Okay, Jews!... It's the overclass group, nobody can imitate such shurks... - But when you been oppressed so your accusation can only be refuseed... The shurks are the masters 'cause they experinced a lot of cruel methodes since many years... You can only suffer like many freedom fighters... - Concrete cases? - Very much!... The judges of system who play dirty rolls... It is extra incredible on Swedish justice-scenes that many foolish judges been corrupted by Jewish authorities and they play extra horrible rolls as pycho-proff doctor magister at policlinics... I can not meet all the judges nor observate all the cases but I met many high-staff at Golf Club Tenerrife, they explained... Shamful!... I can not explain here what they say on the corrpted colleges, so awfully shameful... ... Court material look likes simetrical sences, reasons are too similarly... Many papers of court been published by the Bonniers, Nordstedt... Same mechanism poublish as basic Zionist propagand material, too... EU-membership... After 1995 impressed it by the democratical authorities of other countries? - Unfortunately, it's in all frauds, much more dirty now... If any true jurist goes to United Nations related commissions or the independent justice authorities, so we shall most interesting scandals... - What kind of scandals? - For instance Osmo Vallo-case... Märta Pettersson-case... Remember; what the relatiives of Tony Deogan, Dagmar Hagelin, Anders Gustavsson demand... - Don't make me worry with examles, don't list please much more!.. - It's not me who create the official shame lists!.. Did you hear Osmo Vallo's two brothers and all other relatives are arrested, too... The victims and witness been arrested instead of murderers... Otherway, many freedom fighters forced to be jobless and living under minimal standards... Most famous concret case is Stefan Dimiter Tcholakov who labelled as "laborious" and Work Rights fighters Jimmie Östergren, delegated adviser (former grafiker) Bengt Pettersson and Ahmed Rami, 'cause of criticized the thieves by the Capitalist Jewish lobbies... Laponians who fight for own mark and minority rights, therefore prisoned their representative character Olof T. Johansson, the true Socialists like Bengt Frejd, Sara Lidman, Staffan Ehnebom, so-called the "Free Speech Fighters", anti-Capitalist demonstranter like Jan Hatto, Sten Arne-Zerpe, Dietlieb Felderer, movements who struggle against the weapon-handlers like Henrik Westander (before professur-chair gift) and by his side likely flexible Calle Höglund, anti-Imperialists Hannes Westberg, Herman Schmid, journalists Staffan Beckman, Stefan Hjertén, free-mind intellectuals like Rainer Holm, Linus Brohult, honoured priest K. G. Hammar and hundreds of the anti-Imperialists who been registrated by the lobbies... - What is common with them? - Also! When a Fascist accuse them so judges punish the reviewers, immediately... But when the oppressed people leave any accusation acceptance, can easily be refuseed ... The requests of them almost been absolutely refuseed... - Why the DN, Expressen and other big papers awoid of to publich these true stories?.. They awoid of to show the real discrimination?! Schindler's List was only a filmatic illusion, actually the true boss never gave a chance peace in communities... You know, Bonniers, Wallenberg, Bilderberg-gangs and "Bulldogs" drive the Swindlers' lists, means all the honoured intellectuals been registrated on their computers... Therefore Stockholm-Sydney changed to be second plot area of Jew York-Tel Aviv's armed Mafia... - Yes, it's!.. But what a lucky I have been warned before!. - The authorities are blind on such actions.. Why? - Because every big shurk drives by the big lobbies in this big SvekJa zionized Kingdom... - ?! - How can we could informed and know the truth!?... - I can't reply all in two minutes?! - Well!... I understand better... It's a modernised version of enormous hypocrisy... And I understand why the worlkd couldn't react when Jews slaughed people in Sabra, Shatila, Jenin... Everybody watched on tv meanwhile druck Coca-Cola, chips, bonbons... - Like the film-druged idiots?.. - No, Sir!... We have incredible reactions and collaborated feelings too, remember, we all cried when we watched on the Swindler's list, whole lies master-piece on scenes... - Shame on double-moral masters!.. Where are the all good peoples now?! - No way to Pessimism, please!.. Well, I see a positive case here on the Swedish DN, Expressen; Maximum sentence for the desecration of cemeteries - an outrage which traditionally targeted Jewish cemeteries - was raised from 6 months' imprisonment to 2 years. Yes, the prisonment period raised in 1993, Spring. Then... - It should not calls for case; it's provocation... There is no any single case in SvekJa, means nobody sentenced, nobody improsined for desecrations.. - Maximum sentence will be 2 years! Isn't good? - I want not talk on the sentences good or not good... But I'm coming from Skaane and I witnessed who targeted the cemeteries... - Who? - Jews!... I saw them... They were there and porovoced very succesful so they manipulated sitation... Therefore there is no prisoner after this pharagraph ' cause they aimed change the rules... - I remember a similarly case, my mother witnessed and told us about the foxy Jews who played theatre at the street on 30 November in Germania... It was before WW III, Jewish fanatics crashed own glass and won enormous generous compensation by the reasurance firms... But their media manipulated the world by the help of american Imperialism so all the analphabets crying on every 30 September worldwide, every year like a crying festival, meantime the Zionist boss' laughing behind the windows... ** - This is not the Cold War but a form of ongoing Cold War, what drives now by the lobbies... This area demands the prejudiced scientists... - Why the oppressed folk don't protest or discuss these problems... - Ever and never! This is not the results of the football matches... People need knowledge on biological developments... - Biological? Bur the lobotomies and sterilization methodes were only in last century?! - System have now most avanced methodes for instance isolation, registration and systematically injustice... Only two tousand youngs become suicide in SvekJa Kingdom, two times been a short news.. - Youngs?... But adults? - They never counts by half officially pools.... Animal lover bourgeoisie have sex-partner-dogs, counts for identification and health rights, but not the discriminated persons... Never mind!... - There aren't really a single one modernized democratical institution? - ?! ** - I wonder why many immigrants sets to work without language courses meanwhile many others been discriminated because of their language is not "wonderful, brilliant"?.. - I met many people too... For example after Warszawa pakt's collapse fleed manybiologs to the occupied Middle East, Australia, SvekJa and specially the laboratory workers sets on the jobs without any oppression... - Did you found any explain about this subject?.. - Not directly... I met a family in SvekJa, who calls for BOLDTs, escaped from Baltics by the way of so-called "official Al Capone Raoul Wallenberg" Co's false Finnish pass and corrupted authorities in Kingdom by the way of Jewish lobbies... A cunning mature, drives "Invandrar Publications"... She explained thatall these scientists had already one or two international languages what beenrespected... - She lies!.. I know a writer, know six or seven language but SvekJa system set him too the cleaner-catch boy courses... - Yes; I understand... Jolin replied this case too; "maybe the writer criticised the oligarchical targets..." - And she publish these subjects on the Invandrar Tidningen? Bravo!... - You will be chocked; she help to the lobbies to registrate opposite... - Was she biology-worker in Baltics... - No!... But system need such families to follow the people and therefore she didn't go to the claenar courses and nor any language course although her vocabulary is worst when I compare with other immigrants... Nowadays fixed this family a credit possbility by the lobbies and Swedish American authorities,looks like a support to publish weekly propagand bulletin, called "Sesam"... - Is it a propagand bulletin which the redacteurs in Jew York recommended? - Yes!... Worst and most dangerous in the world... - Do you explain; what you discovered by Sesam or chief Boldt's although her family never had a single one scientist, fixed regularly credits... - I am regularly reading all the issues of Sesam-falsification magazine and seewhat this shurk's gang provoce there: "Immigrants always have problems... Immmigrant prepared to accept thatnever been accepted as true citizen... This is a insemination what the Zionist Fascists do against thesecond class people in Tel Aviv... In SvekJa Kingdom, by this shurk-coup drivessame project... Look at these pages, even the Laponians counts like the second class people and never discuss serious their minority rights, work rights byindustrial investigations of Kingdom... They handled often like the Gypsies,more worst; they handled like prisoners on its own marks like the Palestinians who prisoned his own haoses there in the occupied Middle East... Do you discussuor rights here on Immigrant pages? Never... Boldt have credit by Spaarbank and Nordea's Jew chiefs... Why? Because, Boldt-gang is the best flexible which uses like a condom against Human Rights...According of these shurks there is no any Zionist Occupational Gang in the world, but Palestinians been counted as problematics... Palestinians describes like the immigrants there, what the oppressed people behandles here in SvekJa Kingdom... Boldt and her lap-dogs manipulate the questions of immigrants and never answer thequestions although there is two pages for responses... - I know a Jewish paper in USA, redacteur send letters himself and replies later instead of the true readers... - Similar tactic!... What Big Brother do, Swedish hypocrites just imitate it... Not only this fetty imbecill's Sesam, all other creit-addicted papers administrations making copies of ordinary people's letters... mostly all these half-officially "Invandrar tidningar industrin" "brain washing instruments on the immigrants" running on this line... what thelobbies, so-called "registrationsnamnden" and the collaborators by the Swedish ministries like much and therefore pumping money.. - Now I have a little question; is Boldt-gangs are Jewish originated... - More dangereous... Members, so-called "edsvurna" by the Zionist lobbies!...But how you guess about the origins of these shurks?! - I am not so stupid although I like sometimes discuss football, too... - ...and maybe a private question, too!.. How you can be so close to Jolin!... - She like small and younger Africans like a tradition by the bourgeoisise fetties nowadays and it was plus point when she discovered I am from Ethiopia... - More question? - No more, 'cause I have already all the answers on this area specially experiences by such kind of chiefs who need my massage... This is biology, too; bio-physique... - But why all these lobbies hate Rainer Holm?.. Rainer is not immigrant.. - He registrated because of the critics againt the system and projects.. - What kind of system? Whose projects, whose rules? - Kidding? - ?! ** - Not only this case and such victims, all the anti-imperialists are the potentially criminals, according to the registrators of lobbies...They are suspicious in all cases, on all the connections... - They are suspicious perhaps only on our duties... Otherways I met an interesting gay, talks perfect Persian, practiced around of Gulf... - Dehdari? Kamali? Tagawi? - Bijan Fahimi!.. This gay, Persian Zionist, explain any connection between many Swedes for example: Staffan Ehnebom, Jimmie Östergren, Ahmed Rami, Rainer Holm, Henrik Westander, Osmo Vallo (murdered by police torture in Malmuu-city) and his prisoned brothers, Tony Deogan and Anders Gustavsson (both murdered by group violence and prosecutors didn't accuse anyone because tehese boys weren't from bourgeoisie cathegories in the community and both criticized sytem by any articles before), Bengt Frejd, Olof T. Johansson, Sara Lidman, Calle Höglund, Belay Mekkonen, Hannes Westberg, Linus Brohult, Sven Wollter, Gunnar Thorell, Murat Yildiz, Bodil Margret Lindqvist, Staffan Beckman, Ísmet Celepli, Juan Fonseca (before he had no so intensive ineresse on money), Ditlieb Felderer, Stefan Hjertén, Stefan Dimiter Tcholakov (forced to be psyhico because one of the his relative was guerilla leader, who had same name forced for Independent Makedonia and jailed by false accusations of two Jewish judges from Bulgaria just after 1945. Guerilla leader had no possibility to defence himself, Jewish judges published only the false accusations, including fictive movements who leaned weapon from Germania under WW II. Although many corrupted judges and prosecutors were the traitors, this power manipulated history; nobody succeed to choose what is right what is wrong by medial campaigns... Guerillas, like "Uncle Tcholakov" sentenced without any minimal evidence... In 1944 borned Stefan as Dimiter Tcholakov, become academical carrier in Sofia university and fleed to SvekJa Kingdom, completed 140 university points but prevented from work life, isolated, discriminated by the the Jewish registrators, lobbies, specially the collaborators of Clas Lilja "genetical-researcher Zionist clan" members in the Waexsjö city), victims from West Front like Robert Malecki as true Vietnam deserter and as second category; Jan Myrdal, Teddy John Frank, Frank Baude, Peter Bratt, (hans cell-shared-comrade Jan Guillou pissed off from lists because he s multi-milliarder rich now), Dagmar Hagelin (Swedish Jews followed her and she been hunted in Argentina, murdered because her father listed as Marxist), Torsten Leander (only single this one compensed as symbolic maneouver), Work Rights Fighers Jimmie Östergren fr Högdalen and his ombudsman Bengt Pettersson fr Folks house Rågsved, Lilian Gustavsson betrays by Jewish manipulation center Expo Svartvitt's lies who is mother to Anders, 17, murdered by torture methodes of bulldog Anders Carlsberg's fascist boys at Fyrshuset trainee center in Hammarby bourgeoisie area of capitol... and much more anti-imperialists; I collected here hundreds of names... Count please the victims of Estonia ferry, which used to transferring the nuclear weapons to the West and sinked by an explosion; prosecutors hunted the criticer intellectuals not the criminal propagandists of Jewish DN-Expressen falsificators nor the boss of weapon markets...... Why thus people counts in two different categories and what is difference between two oppressed or only been registrated followed people I don't understand... But you can notice much more if you visit Veritas Co. Veritas fraud league is a computer and distribution which serve the falsificators, Swedes call him "Jankele Pirat kopiormästaren!", means "Bitch falsificator masters' bastard"... - What is the connection but with our tennisplayer monkey? - That is the question... They don't know anything and therefore we are on the duty, means their unknowledge is our gain... - Game?! - You need go to the ear specialist, my friend; Nordic climate is not fit to your upside... - ?! ** - I wonder what is the reason this story-teller uses a strange grammar.. Bad english, according to the web administrations.... Worst than my chief's school english level... - I understand you, too!.. But you know, I met this autor, a clever girl who can talk wonderful.. I mean, she is a successful person when she talks plenty fluently on other matters... - But why this girl tells her story in so incredible strange english? - I try to explain!... Yes, I asked her about this flat language... She replied; "When I wrote in correct english, pissed off by the bourgeoisie dominated media"... So, after this explain I checked it and witnessed that she has right... - I wonder the majority been masochists nowadays?! - Ye', it is stranger than language!... ... Maybe we are living in a period there bourgeoisie living a social sickness like mass masochistical delusion system... We piss off the normally attitudes... - Also, you mean the autor aims to write good tales in bed grammar to fix the barries of establishment on this sick medial world... - Approximately... - But she make folks laugh!... Listen to this clip, super irritable bad english.. She makes me laugh, too!... - Sure!.. Story teller aims it... Otherwise, you are a living evidence that she succeed to make laugh you like any other pieces of this oligarchical system!.. - What!?.. - ...and at last this story teller added that she believe in "Mankind changed so much, nowadays civilizated people mostly looks like a kind of animal who can learn during laughing"... - ?! *** ______________ Most visited links: Revolutionaries of Australia: http://www.cpa.org.au/ www.cpa.org.au/
CommentsDot, I have, denounced China's invasion of Tibet! The same way I have denounced all invasions of weaker countries by foreign powers. I also regard Ghandi, the Dalai Lama and Martin Luther King as men trying to bring peace, justice and equality to all. I did not paint the Dalai Lama as puppet of the CIA. I simply asked why is he on the CIA's payroll. What purpose can it possibly serve. Unless I am mistaken, the Dalai Lama was the head of the failed revolt in March 1959, when he was evacuated out or Tibet by the CIA via horseback, desguised as one of his own bodyguards into India... http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/jphuck/Book16Ch.7.html SHAME ON YOU! for thinking so highly of someone who was willing to leave his people behind, stranded in the mountains of Tibet at the mercy of China's Red Army...The ends, do! justify the means. You are right about one other thing though, Mao Dzedong belongs NOWHERE near them, and I never said he did. "I want to speak out against all wars, and making excuses for any of them cheapens our movement". You have made some excellent points Dot, perhaps you should come out of "lurk mode" and engage in discussion. We need all the help we can get when speaking out against this war and all wars. Peter New York
CommentsWe will be able to stop talking about this war soon. In just a week, the United States military has surrounded one of history's most sadistic and nasty regimes. It has overrun 80 percent of the countryside and has daily pulverized the Republican Guard, achieving more in five days than the Iranians did in eight years. Twenty-four hours a day, thousands of tankers and supply trucks barrel down long, vulnerable supply lines, quickly and efficiently. There is no bridge too far for these long columns. One-hundred percent air superiority is ours. There is not a single Iraqi airplane in the sky. Enemy tanks either stay put or are bombed. Kurds and Shiites really will soon start to be heard. Seven oil wells are on fire (with firefighters on the scene) - no oil slicks, no attacks on Israel. Kuwait City is not aflame. "Millions" of refugees fleeing into Syria and Jordan have not materialized. Even Peter Arnett is no longer parroting the Iraqi government claims of ten million starving and has moved on to explain why the Iraqis were equipped with chemical suits - to protect Saddam's killers from our WMDs! Few, if any, major bridges in Iraq have been blown; there are no mass uprisings in Saddam's favor. The Tikrit mafia fights as the SS did in the craters of Berlin, facing as it does - and within weeks - either a mob's noose, a firing squad, or a dungeon. Through 20,000 air sorties, no jets have been shot down; there is nothing to stop them from flying another 100,000. They fly in sand, in lightning, high, low, day, night, anywhere, anytime. Supplies are pouring in. Saddam's regime is cut off and its weapons will not be replenished. This is not North Vietnam, with Chinese and Russian ships with daily re-supply in the harbor of Haiphong. British and Americans, with courageous Australians as well, are fighting as a team without even the petty rivalry of a Montgomery and Bradley. Our media talks of Saddam's thugs and terrorists as if they were some sort of Iraqi SAS. Meanwhile, the real thing - scary American, British, and Australian Special Forces - is causing havoc to Saddam's rear guard. In short, for all the tragedy of a fragging, Iraqi atrocities, misdirected cruise missiles, and the usual cowardly antics inherent to our enemy's way of war, the real story is not being reported: A phenomenal march against overwhelming logistical, material, and geographical odds in under seven days has reached and surrounded Saddam Hussein's capital. At home there have been none of the promised terrorist attacks. A supportive public - stunned by initial losses, now angered by atrocities - is growing more, not less, fervent, determined not merely to defeat but to destroy utterly the Baathists. The Arab world snickers that we cannot take casualties; the American public is instead growing impatient to inflict more of them - and is probably already well to the right of the Bush administration. We are a calm and forgiving people, but executing prisoners, fighting in civilian clothes, and using human shields will soon draw a response too terrible to contemplate. Joe
CommentsDot, Sorry you won't stay. New York peter is now going after someone with a purer motive than his own. If you disagree with him in any way, be ready to suffer his wrath, you are no safer than Tibet; Peter NY is never wrong, and "he only posts facts". To understand how New York Peter feels about anyone who stands in the way of socialism/communism, you may meed to read this from one of New York Peter's own impartial links: "Marxist-Leninists must seize hold of the revolutionary possibilities that are developing rapidly and lead the masses in stepping up the revolutionary struggle on all fronts - beginning revolutionary warfare where that is possible, stepping up preparations where the conditions for such revolutionary warfare are not yet ripe. In this way the struggle for communism will advance..." He does not hold the Dalai Lama in high esteem because he deserted his own people in the face of the glorious Chinese People's Liberation Force. The Dalai Lama joins the ranks of other such cowards as Douglas MacArthur and Charles De Gaulle (Petain heroically remained to fight the Germans). Dunkirk and Hungnam were cowardly retreats, and would never would have happened in Russia-the soldiers would have been shot by their own heroic officers. Please consider some who would fit Peter's definition of heroes who stay to the last: Adolph Hitler, and perhaps Saddam Hussein. Peter
CommentsDot, I can see you once again misundestood what I posted and totally blew it out of proportion. It doesn't matter whether I hold the Dalai Lama in high regard or not, as you know I am a non-believer in any religion, and any God for that particular matter. My question was very clear. "Why was he, (the Dalai Lama), on the CIA's payroll after heading the revold in Tibet?" Simple enough, don't you think? I have never said that MacArthur and De Gaulle were cowards, how dare you put words in my mouth? I have never given a definition of what a hero is to me, so I don't know where you are coming up with these ridiculous ideas... Peter Please stick to the facts... Peter New York
CommentsOne of the Peters said, "I am a non-believer in any religion, and any God for that particular matter." If that is true why would you not lie, cheat, rape and steal to get all the things in life you want? Oh yeah, you're a liberal. Maybe you do.
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